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Mike you said,


>>The Jeremiah readings today may seem to you a bit tough to read. It is sad to see the coming destruction. As I read through these verses I wonder about Jeremiah. How tough it must have been on him to know what was coming. Though, there were people that wanted to kill him, so perhaps at times he agreed with God on what was coming…And I of course believe so. I think that I see that the life of Jesus on Earth was obviously between the time of Jeremiah and the time of Brennan. And I believe Christ's suffering and death took on our sins - and this act had obviously not taken place in Jeremiah's time. I believe God is very graceful. I can see how reading chapters like these in Jeremiah may bring that in question in some ways.>>


I may be misunderstanding the intent of your words in trying to explain the actions of God and or the entrance of Christ into the world. Forgive me and correct me if I’m wrong but can we humans explain the actions of God? Are we dealing with a God who has changed from the Old Testament to something and someone more lovable in the New? I don’t think so and my assumptions are based on the Word,

Who has prepared and done this, calling forth and guiding the destinies of the generations [of the nations] from the beginning? I, the Lord--the first [existing before history began] and with the last [an ever-present, unchanging God]--I am He.
(Isa 41:4 AMP)

For I am the Lord, I do not change; that is why you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed.
(Mal 3:6 AMP)

Jesus Christ (the Messiah) is [always] the same, yesterday, today, [yes] and forever (to the ages).
(Heb 13:8 AMP)


The tendency is to paint God as being what we have created Him to be instead of feeding on His Word, The Bible—the whole counsel of God, and altering our understanding based on His Character revealed in His Word. If what we read doesn’t line up with our own understanding then we throw out the Bible, calling it irrelevant and illogical, or we ignore the things we don’t understand and say that God changed. Christ and God are one and the same, as is the Holy Spirit, different manifestation of the One and only God (That is the mystery scripture speaks about).

In the beginning was the Word [or, the Expression of [divine] Logic], and the Word was with [or, in communion with] God, and the Word was God [or, was as to His essence God]. This One was in the beginning with God. All [things] came to be through Him, and without Him not even one thing came to be which has come to be. (Joh 1:1-3 ALT)

You don’t have to understand everything to believe it, that is why it is called faith. How many of us know how sound waves are pulled out of the air in order for us to see images emanating from our television screens or hear audio from our radios and cell phones? If we had to take a test to operate those appliances either we would all study physics or whatever the science is that explains how they work, or the broadcast and cell phone industry would go out of business for lack of knowledgeable consumers.

We live in a fallen world. God created this world in perfect condition, no storms, no rain, no violence. The entrance of “sin” caused and even today continues effectively to cause disunity in our environment inhabited and populated by the things God created as perfect.

Therefore the land has become unclean and I have brought the punishment for its iniquity on it, so that the land has vomited out its inhabitants. You yourselves must obey my statutes and my regulations and must not do any of these abominations, both the native citizen and the resident foreigner in your midst, for the people who were in the land before you have done all these abominations, and the land has become unclean. So do not let the land vomit you out because you defile it just as it has vomited out the nations that were before you. (Lev 18:25-28 NET.)

We understand to not play in the streets, sleep in the streets and live in the streets especially where there is active and heavy traffic barreling through. Our safety and protection from being run over by an eighteen-wheeler tractor-trailer rests on our obey rule of law and rules of nature/physics. We can understand that; however, we struggle with understanding that our only protection is adhering to the Laws that God has placed in the Universe. When we fail to take heed, when we fail to make the name of the Lord our High Tower of protection, we may find ourselves dancing the dance of potential destruction and judgment when one day we fail to get out of the way of that “Big Rig.” That does not mean that God has abandoned us it just means we have walked away from His Protection by adhering to His Word.

Yes, we may, someone else may, violate God’s Laws and His Words and others unrelated to that violation may and will bodily suffer the consequences of someone else’s sin. That is the nature of a sinful world; it affects other innocent people; however, God is still Just, He is still mercifully, His Truth still stands and He is ever Gracious and Grace filled.

Reading through the Bible is about discovering who God is based on the knowledge revealed in the scriptures. We come to this site to have our eyes opened and our ears unstopped so that we can not only see God through His Word but hear His still small voice speak to us in our times of solitude. May we not be hindered by what we read that appears to be outside of our understanding or preset ideas. May we have ears to hear and eyes to see the Truth that this Word of God brings to our understanding. In Jesus’ might and glorious name, Amen.

Grace and peace to all,
Ramona

Well said Ramona! Thanks! -Mike

Jermiah & The Ragamuffin gospel

I like Mike's putting forth the questions and thoughts about "How can this God that Jeremiah saw as he witnessed the destruction of the prized Temple...be also the same God in the Ragamuffin gospel.

(I did enjoy it when I first reread it)

I suppose relevance could be an issue: Have we ever witnessed destruction either personally or as a nation? Either as a direct result of judgement or an indirect catastrophe that causes us to think of judgement?

Jeremiah warned of Judgement and with Katrina in New Orleans I would not say judgement was come but was in some way knowledge and personal choice missed?

I mean to say like Jesus said about buidling a house upon sand, Would an Older generation build beneath Sea Level in a place of Hurricanes?

Maybe..,

But as the ragamuffin gospel shows and a recent Larry King Interview spoke about.

It is not that God sent the hurricane, but to say He did not know it was coming would be a little presumptous.

On our Jeremiah side could he not have said, Enough of Mardi Gras and some satanic activities..., I know do to the Brokeness of the World, the corruption of the weather patterns, a "Wirlwind" is coming and if you make your plans and don't listen to warning, a strong wind will come and take all out.

Jeremiah would have been nice in French Quarters...hmmm?

I think we all want a ragamuffin gospel now in the City that wants gambling to produce revenues...

I think I want a modern love and compassion to take home a homeless person or family and frankly keep them there.

I don't want to rebuild a temple that was so corrupted in Jeremiahs day that even in Jesus Day again a Temple needed to be destroyed.

I wonder about my own temples and frankly my church and home.

Should my Gospel be as the Lord Liveth and I able to take One Person, one family home.. and help them?

Should I be willing to absorb a person into my life and let my life style and actions be seen by another so as to have the chance to share...a fact i live by..."my lord liveth?"

Sadly, I fail my own test and wish for you more than I am.

In the past as a one time 'Jesus Freak' I did live as I ask and as new times bring back the warnings (and todays readings) and the times I lived in: Jesus is Coming;

I see another issue I never thought to enconter, the convenient christian.

Send Monies, send missionaries, send concerts, foods, clothings, and yet;

Is there one David Wilkerson from Colorado to a need in New York?

One Keith Green singing here am I, send me.

I think todays reading and Katrina's force and my own reactions are linked. As my Lord liveth, I feel remorse and tears of shame for not being one to say,

Here am I, come to me.

Only God can meet all real need from disasters both personal and national.

Yet as TV shows Swap Wives to help others in reality shows in America, I hope we as a people of God don't need a Reality check to know our time is now.

Our homes where we feel safe...may be a launching place for us to leave to go help;

Or a shelter for those who need us to bring home our gospel...,

the ragamuffins who need to know and see in us..that our God Lives.

I pray I may live again as I once did.

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