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Thanks for the insights today and yesterday on the importance of Psalm 118 in the Passover liturgy.

Mike,
I can't thank you enough for recommending "The Ragamuffin Gospel." Re-read chapter 6!--that chapter alone makes the price of the book more than worthwhile. I am trying to figure out now how many to buy as Christmas presents for family and friends. Thanks again!

Mike,

I just read your statement regarding the reading in James,

>>Am I trying to enjoy this world? Per this verse, where does this pursuit of the world put me with my relationship with God? Am I an "adulterer", in the sense of my relationship with God and the world?>>

I have a question for you, “What is your understanding of “the world?” God created the world for us to live in. Terra firma earth has no other reason to exist except for us “beings” to live in it an reflect back to God His glory and to enjoy the glory of his creation. Paul states this,

As for the rich in this world, charge them not to be proud and arrogant and contemptuous of others, nor to set their hopes on uncertain riches, but on God, Who richly and ceaselessly provides us with everything for [our] enjoyment. (1 Timothy 6:17 AMP)

What we are in danger of doing is forgetting who created the Word and going after the things that were created instead of the One who created them.

Again, what is your understanding, or meaning of “the world? And how does one pursue the world? Some people in churches/denominations see “the world” as consisting of academic or intellectual knowledge outside of “The Bible,” and that is just one of many things that are identified by certain groups as being non-spiritual.

I have found in reading through the Bible that we all bring our experiences and prejudices into these pages and we fail to get God’s meaning so we take our fears, jealousies, short comings, etc. and turn them into denominational or personal rules and laws.


Does anyone else have any comments or think of things that some religious folks called “worldy” that you scratched your head and said, “What and How?” How many of us who visit this site changed churches or even denominations because of this sticky little topic.

Just something to think about.

Grace and peace,

Ramona

Good question Ramona! I am going to have to think through this some more. But here's some quick thoughts. I don't mean to sound like an extreme aesthetic - abandon anything material for all things spiritual. But, I guess I personally just have a tendency to abandon things spiritual for things material. :) So, I agree that God created the world and it is good. But when I begin to worship or idolize the created things, rather than the Creator, then I am sinning. And though this world is created good it is also fallen because of sin & the devil. There is clearly evil in the world that calls us and pursues us. I don't think the world is evil - but evil is in the world.

I'll keep thinking about this and I probably need to study on it some more. If anyone else has comments on the "world" and what James was trying to get at in these verses, please post up. Great discussion! Thanks again Ramona.

Mike

Jeff - thanks for the feedback on the Ragamuffin Gospel by Brennan Manning. Sometimes I put book recommendations out there and never know if anyone reads the recommendations. I'm glad you did! I haven't read the book now in over a year, so I'll have to pick it up and check out chapter 6 again. Thanks for buying this book for others for Christmas gifts. Great idea! If anyone else wants to learn more about this gem of a book, check it out at amazon here - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1576737160/

Mike

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