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In Luke 3:23, I was surprised to read 'as was supposed.' I looked up other translations online, The Message saying 'in public perception' and the NLT leaving it out.

It made me wonder... in spite of what happened in v.22, had people somehow forgotten? Had they failed to realise who Jesus was really the son of?

Phew... I do appreciate Mike's time and effort for this blog. It must be so hard putting up material and readings every single day. But I am just wondering how feasible this style of Bible reading is?

Must we not also take break from Bible readings? What I mean is we also need time to reflect on Bible verses and try to live them out. We can't mechanically keep on reading Bible. I do read some bits of Bible everyday though. Preachers like Charles Stanley say we MUST read Bible everyday. I would add we ought to and try to. God is no dictator but a loving and caring God.

I hope I dont sound like a pagan but how about watching a sunset and watching the stars at night and reflect on God's mighty show, for a change?

God has intensively used nature in Bible to show that nature proves his existense... for example in the book of Job. Also, in Genesis God even mentioned that whenever man needed to remember the covenant all he gotta do is to look at the pretty rainbow :-)

emberglow,
i don't think you are 'a pagan' at all. Psalm 19 asserts that 'the heavens tell of the glory of God. The skies display his marvelous craftsmanship. Day after day they continue to speak..." Later on in the passage he also asserts that 'the law of the Lord is perfect.' I think we need both--reflecting on what God has created and what it reveals about Him without 'worshiping creation', and we also need to saturate our lives with God's Word so that as Spurgeon said, we will have 'bibline blood'.

I also like Romans 1 where it says, "Ever since the creation of the world his invisible nature has been clearly perceived in the things he has made." (1:20)

One last thought. A couple of years ago I read Gary Thomas' book 'Sacred Pathways'. This book outlines several different pathways to God's heart--intellectual pathway, activistic pathway, relational pathway, creation pathway, and several others. he also provides a 'test' to help one determine their 'primary pathway.' This was so freeing to me and several others in our community who were stuck on 'the one size fits all' for everybody approach to seeking God.

It's interesting that very rarely if ever do we have 'prescription' for what a 'quiet time' should look like. Jesus went to a solitary place and most of the time it says 'he prayed'. Other places it says he would ask "have you not read' which implies he did he read the scriptures but we're never told 'how he did it.' Same is true of the other apostles. We need to be careful to not do as the Pharisees loved to do "lay religious practices on people that burden people but don't serve people in getting to know the Lord.

I love the OYB that Mike has crafted for many reasons but especially his artwork that he provides. That has blessed me so much. I have even used some of the pictures in messages I have delivered.

Thanks Mike for taking time out of your own very active life to serve us this way.

My life is always so much better when I am feeding on His Word daily. I have let a couple of years slip by & not been consistent in reading His Word daily & there is definitely a difference than just reading something daily about him or a devotional or even just some scripture entailed in some writing or devotion. I can't really put my finger on it...but there is definitley a difference.

As we need our daily physcial food to survive...we can not eat as much & lose weight & that also can happen on feeding on the Word of God...to lose weight spiritually is not a good thing. Of course, there should be balance in all things...if we should become anorexic & not feed on God's Word at all, we shall surely suffer the consequences just as in the physical...acutally the spiritual will always affect the physical realm also...imagine that?!?!?!

The more I partake of Him & His Word, the more I crave & delight in Him & His Word...I get addicted to Him & His Word & can't go without Him or His Word. Somedays I look so forward to spending time in His Word & other days I let it go by & spend a day catching up on 2 or 3 days that I didn't partake of His Word...it is not a legalistic feeding, but one of natural/spiritual love for Him & His Word...knowing that I will get there when I purpose in my heart to love & cherish Him & His Word. It does take an effort on our part, but the cost is well worth the effort...I am full to satisfication in Him & His Word. He said, "He is the Bread of Life & that no one will hunger if fed by Him."

Ms. Jan

Guys-

Your honesty is so refreshing regarding reading through the Bible...as refreshing as the guys who I met with asking "So, Dave,tell me what to do with all the skin disease stuff in Leviticus?" As a follower of Christ for over 30 years, I still don't have an answer. But I ask, if this is the Word of God, what does this strange OT stuff say about His character? A sunset, or a flower, or a trout (my favorite!) also speak to the character of God and I pursue them happily. He longs for us to know Him, and gives us a number of pathways to Him. Blend these pathways as God has created you, but don't forgo reading His Word as you will miss key aspects of our Creator that are not available anywhere else. Despite my 30 years as a well meaning follower of Christ, I have not read His Word and believe I am poorer for it. I have always gotten stuck in the Leviticus swamp or the Numbers desert and have given up. Let's encourage each other to keep on "keeping on" as souls who want to know all aspects of our creator's character!!As one of the smarter guys say "I don't like reading traffic law, but I better know it if I hope to get a license". I am reading it because it has stood the test of time and I try to pursue those things which transcend us. Feast on His sunsets and flowers, but don't forget to eat your Leviticus vegetables! ;-) I also appreciate your desire to stop and meditate. I have been meditating on a few passages for years! But let's keep moving to get the "big picture" to help make the little pictures even more meaningful. God bless you!

I have a question. What is the history of the sacrifices? When did they stop. What do they sacrifice now? I know very little about the Jewish faith, but it seems like a true believer in the Jewish faith would continue the sacrifices set forth in Numbers.Mary

One thing that I have learned new in reading this year in regard to the sacrifices is this...they are God's food!!! Now, I had never realized or had that been revealed to me except this year. I had never even thought of it in that way, but there have been several scriptures present/say it that way. I never thought of God being hungry (maybe hungry for our fellowship that He created us for, but not for food!).

Numbers 28: 1-2 - 1The LORD said to Moses, 2"Give these instructions to the people of Israel: "The offerings you present to me by fire on the altar are my food," and they are very pleasing to me. See to it that they are brought at the appointed times and offered according to my instructions.

I don't know if it is this translation or that God is revealing Himself in a more personal physical way to me this year. I just find it very intersting that God needs or is hungry for food. Perhaps it is symbolic in some way. I do remember that after Jesus was resurrected that he came back & ate with the disciples a few times...indicating His realness & hunger also. I still think there is more revelation to this than I'm getting at this very moment, but I'm sure He will continue to teach/reveal to me what it is that He wants me to know/realize in this hunger/food thing/issue. All praise & glory to Him, my/the lover of my/our soul(s).

Ms. Jan

Re Emberglow's thoughts on reading the Bible and subsequent comments:

I think you are correct that we need to seek balance in our lives and the way we spend our time. God did not make us automatons. And he did not impose rules about times and systems for reading the Bible. Of course it is good the read His Word (otherwise none of us would be spending time around this blog). And it is helpful to have some system to aid our self discipline. For me this year OYB is providing that, and opening up stuff I did not read or understand before.

But I commented before about the fast pace of OYB, when we had an intense discussion about the death penalty and the following day we were into the Year of Jubilee.

Most of my days are such that I do not have a lot of time for meditating on the passages, or digging deep and far into commentaries. So some of my OYB reading is a bit superficial. But it is giving me a view of the big picture that I had not seen before. I am seeing the OT as the context for the coming of Jesus and the need for the New Covenant.

So, thanks again Mike from me too. Your efforts continue to bear fruit. Just one operational remark - is the later timing of the OYB posting due to the automated posting while you are away? For the last week or more the OYB page is not visible in the early morning here in Europe. I miss it. ;-( Poor me!

Blessing,
Andrew B

Emberglow states,

>>Must we not also take break from Bible readings? What I mean is we also need time to reflect on Bible verses and try to live them out. We can't mechanically keep on reading Bible. I do read some bits of Bible everyday though. Preachers like Charles Stanley say we MUST read Bible everyday. I would add we ought to and try to. God is no dictator but a loving and caring God.>>


Since this reading only takes about 15/20 minutes out of a 24 hour day (1,440 minutes/1.38%) of the total day, why can’t you do both? God’s Word, at least for me, magnifies what I see in nature, in lines up my mind to better understand what He has created. For me, God and His Word are one (See John 1:1) so I cannot understand God outside of His Word. I may sense Him when I see the works of His Hand; I may marvel at the moon, the stars and the sun, I may gasp at the ways of the whales in open water, but to know Him intimately I must know Him through His Word.

Grace and peace,
Ramona

I read about 2 years ago a little book by the name of "Our Jealous God/Love that Won't Let Me Go," by Bill Gothard. I had a conversation regarding jealousy a week ago & was reminded by the Holy Spirit of this little book & had to order 2 of the little books again (one to give away & one to keep; I had given the first one away also).

I have discovered once again, the secret to answered prayer (which is directly connected to todays blog on reading the Word of God/adiding in the Word of God daily). Just think...this blog of daily reading His Word actually causes our prayers to be answered & not hindered! :)

Our Lord’s promise in John 15:7-8: “If you abide in Me, & My Words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, & it shall be done for you. By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will by My disciples.”

This is why the Lord so readily answers my prayers…I abide in His Word daily & he honors that in me. Actually, He is fulfilling His promises to us all in this scripture, if we abide in Him & His Word.

Not to long ago on this blog, Mike brought up the subject of whether we read our Bibles in the morning or at night & I discovered this also (I read mostly at night & some in the day on the weekends as I am this morning).

Going to sleep while communing with God through Scripture is a key element to loving Him with all of our heart. The Bible says: “Stand in awe, & sin not: commune with your own heart upon your bed, & be still” (Psalm 4:4 KJV).

During the long years when David fled from Saul in the wilderness of Judah, he composed these words: “When I remember You on my bed, I meditate on You in the night watches. Because You have been my help, therefore in the shadow of Your wings I will rejoice” (Psalm 63:6-7).

I am not saying you should only read at night upon your bed, but that these scriptures make a good case of it being appropriate & puts my heart at ease. I'm not much of a morning person & that is okay with God; as it is okay with Him that some are not night-owls...what a boring world it would be if we were all alike. He made each one of us so vastly different in His image no less...consider that in our finite minds. :)

Ms. Jan

Mary,

>> What is the history of the sacrifices? When did they stop. What do they sacrifice now? I know very little about the Jewish faith, but it seems like a true believer in the Jewish faith would continue the sacrifices set forth in Numbers. >>

The sacrifice was supposed to be offered only in a designated place, as per God’s instructions (This was covered in Leviticus and in our current reading in Numbers.) Once the Temple was built and rebuilt in Jerusalem, beginning with David’s son Solomon, the sacrifices were offered their. In 70 AD, or around that time, the Temple was destroyed by Rome, thus there is not place yet to offer the sacrifices. The Jews are waiting for the Temple to be rebuilt and then they will resume the sacrificial system. At least that is what the Orthodox Jew is waiting for.

Ramona

I guess it's wise to not prescribe 'systems' or spiritual disciplines but to share 'what works for me' is certainly okay. I used to teach MY WAY of reading the Bible as the 'prescribed way', that God really did favour morning people (of which I am). I used to look with suspicion on people who 'couldn't get up to meet with God'. In fact, I used to say, "No Bible, no breakfast." Isn't that sick!! But I did that to people. Lord, have mercy on me⁄ !

I grew up in the Lord around the Navigators. If anyone knows the Navs they are kind of like the spiritual 'navy seals' of the body of Christ. I love the navigators, I work for them today. I was taught that the best time of day to seek the Lord was in the morning, because Jesus did that. And of course there are several examples of Jesus 'arising a great while before day' (Mark 1:35) to meet His Father. But as I began to read through the One year bible before there was ever such a thing as 'blogs' I discovered verses such as following:

Psalm 55:16 "But I will call on the Lord, and the Lord will rescue me. MORNING, NOON, AND NIGHT I plead aloud in my distress.'

Psalm 119:62 "At midnight I rise to thank you for your just laws."

Psalm 119:55 "I reflect at night on who you are, O Lord..."

Psalm 119:97 "Oh how I love your law! I think about it all day long."

Psalm 119:147 "I rise early before the sun is up; I cry for help and put my hope in your words."

Psalm 119:148 " I stay awake through the night thinking about your promise."

Matthew 14:23 Afterward he went up into the hills by hmself to pray. Night fell and he was there alone.
Matthew 26:40 Couldn't you stay awake and watch with me even one hour?"

I have scoured the New Testament and have not found any verse/chapters presribing when or how to read, but I have read verses that challenge me to pursue the Lord (1 cor 1:3 "he has called us into fellowship with his son Jesus' or Phil 3:10 "that I may know HIm and the power of the resurrection."

I suppose we should heed Paul's words when he says we need to teach people the whole counsel of God, and not just our preference. (Acts 20)

All this says to me is that there is no best time to meet God. God is available to be met with ANYTIME OF THE DAY... Now that's freeing and challenging!!!!

More on the blessings of reading the Word of God daily (if at all possible...no guilt trips here, for there is now therefore no condemnation in Christ).

"Resetting the direction of a man or woman's life & training in good living.

That's the effect of God's Word on our minds. Like an internal compass, it resets our direction & turns us toward God's desired outcomes in our lives. Jesus said, "If you love Me, Keep My commandments" (John 14:15).

The word "keep" means "to set before our eyes & guard for use." It is explained by the expression of navigators who say they "keep the stars," which means they keep their course by the stars in the heavens. God gives us a marvelous promise if we do this. "He who has My commandments & keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, & I will love him & manifest Myself to him" (John 1421).

When we begin to honor & obey the commands of Christ & keep them foremost in our thoughts, we will steer our lives away from the shoals & reefs that could sink us, & toward destinations that will delight us beyond our imagination."

The above is an excerpt from the book, "Our Jealous God," by Bill Gothard.

Luciano, I studied under the Navigators when I came back to the Lord in 1976; I had several friends that were Navigators & disciplied me through their program. I no longer study under the Navigators, but that is where I started my foundation & a good foundation is has proved to be. My heart goes out to new converts that have no discipling...it seems to be a treacherous road to travel. Although, I have to believe in the Scriptures that teach us that the Holy Spirit is our teacher also, BUT...we can only renew & transform our minds through the reading/washing of the Word of God & there is no way of getting around that. How can we obey His commandments, if we don't know what they are...His commandments/His Will is His Word.

Ms. Jan

Numbers 28;16-29:40


God wants His people to “party;” to have festivals to honor Him, as well as a holy convocation to both reflect on Him and to reflect on our sin (Day of Atonement). I find it very interesting that God has ordained two festivals to reflect on the harvest, one at the beginning of the harvest season and one at the end, the festival of Booths, Sukkot. It is God who empowers the earth to bring forth fruit from the seed of “…it’s kind …” (Gen. 1:11 Amp).

Everything we see, everything we have belongs to God. We are owners of NOTING but stewards of everything and in each of these calls to worship, the sacrifice system is a strong reminder of that fact.

For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills. I know all the fowls of the mountains: and the wild beasts of the field are mine. If I were hungry, I would not tell thee: for the world is mine, and the fullness thereof. (Psalms 50:10-12 KJV)

There is something very interesting going on in chapter 29:12-38, the number of bulls required for sacrifice decreases daily by one from thirteen, on the first day, until seven on the seventh day. Seven is the number of perfection or completion/

Grace and peace,
Ramona

Ramona,

"There is something very interesting going on in chapter 29:12-38, the number of bulls required for sacrifice decreases daily by one from thirteen, on the first day, until seven on the seventh day. Seven is the number of perfection or completion"

It is also the third feast that occurs in the seventh month.

Just speculating: Feast of the tabernacles (also Ingathering) was for the fianl harvest of the year and the bringing in of all the laborers from the field.

Symbolically, the booths represented the time in "wilderness" (Exodus) until they were gathered together in the "Promised Land.

Prophetically, the time until the millenial kingdom is established.

Perhaps the bull reduction is a kind of countdown until the final eighth day when only one bull is sacrificed. When the Harvesting is done and final acounting can be made, when Israel was finally in the Promised Land as one people, and when all that are left are one in Christ during the millenial kingdom.

According to some interpretations of Zecharaih it is the only Jewish feast day observed during the millenial kingdom.

Zech 14:6
"Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles."

Thomas, [response to your post in last section]

As Bob Deffinbaugh alluded to and J. Vernon Mcgee states - Luke was written to the Greeks. (I never thought of that before today.)

Matthew was written to the Jews with Jesus as the "King". Hence all the Old testament verification by Matthew to verify Jesus' kingly claim.

Mark was written to the Romans with Jesus as "servant". Hence all the "action" to demonstrate Jesus' resume to fulfill his mission.

Luke would then be written to the Greeks, not only as a history - but to show Jesus as the "perfect man" able to fulfill God's new Covenant.

Why the "perfect man"? In 4th Century B.C. the Greeks intorduced the "Periclean Age". They attempted to perfect humanity and to develop the "perfect man". Their gods were often in the image of men, so a man-god would not be a foreign concept to the Greeks. Ultimately they fell short of the perfect man/society.In admitting this, they erected an image to the "UNKNOWN GOD". Later a jumping off place for Paul's discourse to the Greeks.
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Luke's geneology is a verification of Jesus' "perfect man" status through blood lines. It is placed right before Jesus' ministry was to start.

Luke's writings up to now are a prelude to this moment in Jesus' life. In the first three chapters Greeks would understand:

gods sending messengers down to earth to announce miracles and events - miracles and godly announcements occured in Greek mythology.

John the Baptist - Greeks had oracles.

The prominent role of Mary and Elizabeth in writings -Greeks had plenty of female representation sometimes impregnated by the gods in mythology.

Anna and Simeon's story - the Greeks had plenty of priests and oracles to interpret the gods.

The temple story of Jesus at twelve - the Greeks would love the idea of the "perfect man" being a great (perfect) thinker.

John the Baptist's preaching - to Greeks man in the end was flawed.

Jesus' baptism - Greeks would get this ritual accompanied by a voice speaking from the heavens that verified this "perfect man" as from the gods.
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So what about your original question about "as was supposed"? Luke is bridging from the introduction to Jesus' ministry. Most people were not at the baptism scene, especially the Greeks. The prelude is nice so far, but so far it is just a story - the Greeks had plenty of stories.

Luke is establishing the pedigree of the "perfect man" sent from the One True God. To be followed by the story of Jesus' ministry that will supply the "proof".

'as was supposed', 'in public perception', and 'as was the custom' was Luke saying, 'most people taking a casual uninformed look would see Mary and Joseph and the family unit and presume that Jesus was Joseph's son. But not so fast, take a look at the pedigree (geneology) of this "perfect man" going back to Adam.'

Adam was the first "son of God" that screwed things up, this "perfect man" (this "Son of God" - Jesus) is here to set things straight and reconcile man to the gods. The Greeks would like this story. The proof would later show there are not "gods" but One True God.

So while most people would assume Jesus was just a normal man (perhaps gifted) and a son of Joseph. Luke was saying, ' Don't believe it, you read the prelude - god impregnated Mary, through Mary (Luke's geneology) we can trace Jesus back to the first "son of God".'

Adam was a created man, but Jesus has the bloodline to be this "perfect man" a true "son of God". It is now up to Luke to prove this to Greeks with the rest of his Gospel.



Geneology

A key to above is that the geneology in Matthew is Joseph's and Luke's geneology is of Mary.

In Matthew - "Jacob begat Joseph" so who was "Heli" in Luke's geneology. Most scholars would say - Joseph's father-in-law. Thus the Geneology of Luke is of Mary.

Matthews geneology establishes Jesus' legal right to throne through David/Solomon. As the adopted eldest child of Joseph - Jesus would have that legal claim.

Luke's geneology establishes Jesus' blood rights to the throne through David/Nathan and takes him back to the first "son of God" (Adam). Would establish him as descended from the first "son of God".

Believer's commentary has a better (and briefer;) list of reasons why Luke is writing Mary's geneology.

Before taking up the public ministry of our Lord, Luke pauses to give His genealogy. If Jesus is truly human, then He must be descended from Adam. This genealogy demonstrates that He was. It is widely believed that this gives the genealogy of Jesus through the line of Mary. Note that verse 23 does not say that Jesus was the son of Joseph, but “(as was supposed) the son of Joseph.” If this view is correct, then Heli (v. 23) was the father-in-law of Joseph and the father of Mary.
Scholars widely believe that this is the Lord’s genealogy through Mary for the following reasons:

1. The most obvious is that Joseph’s family line is traced in Matthew’s Gospel (1:2–16).
2. In the early chapters of Luke’s Gospel, Mary is more prominent than Joseph, whereas it is the reverse in Matthew.
3. Women’s names were not commonly used among the Jews as genealogical links. This would account for the omission of Mary’s name.
4. In Matthew 1:16, it distinctly states that Jacob begot Joseph. Here in Luke, it does not say that Heli begot Joseph; it says Joseph was the son of Heli. Son may mean son-in-law.
5. In the original language, the definite article (tou) in the genitive form (of the) appears before every name in the genealogy except one. That one name is Joseph. This singular exception strongly suggests that Joseph was included only because of his marriage to Mary.

Although it is not necessary to examine the genealogy in detail, it is helpful to note several important points:

1. This list shows that Mary was descended from David through his son Nathan (v. 31). In Matthew’s Gospel, Jesus inherited the legal right to the throne of David through Solomon. As legal Son of Joseph, the Lord fulfilled that part of God’s covenant with David which promised him that his throne would continue forever. But Jesus could not have been the real son of Joseph without coming under God’s curse on Jechoniah, which decreed that no descendant of that wicked king would prosper (Jer. 22:30). As the real Son of Mary, Jesus fulfilled that part of the covenant of God with David which promised him that his seed would sit upon his throne forever. And by being descended from David through Nathan, He did not come under the curse which was pronounced on Jechoniah.
2. Adam is described as the son of God (v. 38). This means simply that he was created by God.
3. It seems obvious that the Messianic line ended with the Lord Jesus. No one else can ever present valid legal claim to the throne of David.

MacDonald, W., & Farstad, A. 1997, c1995. Believer's Bible Commentary : Old and New Testaments . Thomas Nelson: Nashville

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