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10And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.


Can anyone explain why Jesus the Son of Man can forgive and not the Holy Spirit when they are one and the same God?

Why does the bible keep referring to Jesus as the Son of Man instead of the Son of God or Son of the Holy Spirit? We all know He became man by being born, but He is God first, and He was conceived of the Holy spirit.

I have been pondering on this since reading the whole book of Deuteronomy & especially chapter 28-30 regarding blessing & cursing. I understand & realilze that God is love, but that love is balanced & in that love is justice & judgement. I get so tired of hearing the watered down Gospel, that God is love & loves everything. From what I understand & read from His Word/Laws...He does not love evil & wickedness/sin...can't even be around it & there are evil & wicked people in this world that will never change & He knows that & yes, it is the desire of Him & all believers/Christians that none should perish...but some will do so.

I heard someone in our office just the other day say, "God loves everybody," & it pricked my heart. Love does cover a multitude of sin as His Word says...but there is always consequences to sin...cursing if you may. Yes, I sin...but I try not to & I'm not wicked & evil. I fear God & the consequences of my sin & repent & turn from it when I do happen to stumble. I just don't think it is as easy as every one thinks it is...there is a cost to following Christ & the Word says we are to count that cost & figure out if we are able to pay the cost of being His disciples/followers...it will cost us something...possibly our lives (we must die to ourselves daily & that is not easy either).

I also think the more you read His Word, the more you understand & fear Him. After all, the beginning of knowledge/wisdom is fear of the Lord. When & if I sin, it tears my heart out & I have no choice but to run to Him & repent. I love Him so I obey His commands as best I can; but because of the way people portray God's love...a lot of people think they can get away with anything...they have no fear of God/our Lord. Guess they are still on the throne of their lives.

In regard to Mike's comment about reading the Bible/God's Word through at least every 7 years...you would truly be doing yourself a disservice in doing so. The more you read the Bible/His Word...the more intimate you become with Him...you are actually reading HIM...the Word made flesh. I have went 2 years without reading His Word daily (always reading it somehow throughout the day in some form)...but there is just something entirley different about eating/taking our "daily" Bread/Him/Word as our susentance...the only thing that gives us true life.

Jan,

Thank you for your post. I am one that also believes that outside of the Word, God cannot be fully known since He says in His Word, that that He and His Word are One (John 1). Funny thing is that when I was an unbeliever running around and doing crazy things, I would curse people out who I saw reading the Bible on public transportation. I did this for more than ten years. Question: was I really rejecting God or kicking against the “pricks?” (That was a rhetorical question).

It’s strange how we blame shift the effects of our sin onto God. God could have stopped us, If God is Love, He will forgive me and not punish me or cause me to suffer the consequences of our behavior. We have this thing that someone loves us if they don’t hold us accountable. If you love me, you will let me do what I want and clean up or ignore the mess I just made, when the Bible clearly states otherwise:

Proverbs 3:12
New Living Translation (NLT)
For the LORD corrects those he loves, just as a father corrects a child in whom he delights.

Proverbs 13:24
New Living Translation (NLT)
If you refuse to discipline your children, it proves you don't love them; if you love your children, you will be prompt to discipline them.


The first time I read the mandate for Israel to assemble themselves every seven years, the year that all debts were canceled, to here the Law read, the first five books of Moses, I said WOW! Even though at that time, they were responsible for hearing, understanding and applying only five books, when we have sixty-six, every seven years, what greater standard will be held accountable, especially those in Western Civilization, for handling or mishandling the Word of God? Here in the United States we can be heading to the “No-Tell Motel” to commit adultery and have the Word of God in the drawer next to us on the night table.

Jan—thanks again for your comments.

Roslyn,

Two questions. The second question:

"Why does the bible keep referring to Jesus as the Son of Man instead of the Son of God or Son of the Holy Spirit?"

It is almost exclusively used by Jesus in the gospels.

"The term appears 82 times in the NT. It is always spoken by Jesus in the gospels. "One like a son of man" appears in Rev 1:13 and 14:14. Stephen sees the Son of Man standing in Acts 7:56. All other uses are by Jesus."
http://www.4truth.net/site/apps/nl/content3.asp?c=hiKXLbPNLrF&b=784431&ct=1742297

Personally, I believe Jesus delighted in mankind from the beginning. Therefore, I think he delighted in the title. On a practical basis, using "Son of Man" was not only a title of humility, but provided less hindrance in his ministry. If he kept saying, He was the "Son of God" or the "Messiah" over and over. Then along with his works, people would be rushing to make him King, perhaps anger the temple priests so that they tried to kill him sooner, etc. these things would not be in line with his ministry or would threaten to end his ministry before the appointed hour.

John MacArthur lists four reasons why Jesus used the title "Son of Man" under the section:

Why Did Christ Call Himself "the Son of Man"?
http://www.biblebb.com/files/MAC/sg2378.htm

Christ also equated "Son of Man" with deity by his acts as the "Son of Man" and links to Daniel (Ch.7). Also the human aspect was important to emphasize in relation to the kinsman-redeemer role of Christ. In O.T. only a blood relative could redeem the person from slavery, and had the obligation to be the "avenger of blood". From the third paragraph on:
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/son-of-man.html

Christ has another link to mankind as the "last Adam":

"It is very enlightening to realize that everything Adam lost in a moment of time was regained by the lord Jesus Christ during his amazing life's work. The two great loses caused by Adam (spirit and a close relationship with God) was recovered and improved upon by the redemptive work of Jesus Christ."

Six comparisons to Adam and Christ are in the link below:
http://www.sdbiblicalstudies.com/teachings/firstlast_adam.htm

To sum up: "Son of Man" is important for its link to humanity. "Son of Man" is important as the gospels unfold and the term is equated with deity. Lastly, "Son of Man" is important because in that human role Christ could be the "last Adam" and "Kinsman-Redeemer". It is just as important a title for Christ as "Son of God". BTW "Son of God" is used 80+ times in the N.T. (depending on version).


Roslyn,

Your first question is perhaps easier to explain.

"Can anyone explain why Jesus the Son of Man can forgive and not the Holy Spirit when they are one and the same God?"

Luke 12:10
"And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven."

I think the important thing here is the "Son of Man" reference. If one was not exposed to Christ's divine power and presence, they might speak a word (logos) against Jesus. They may choose to disbelieve that this "Son of Man" is the "Son of God". These people would be acting out of ignorance. Yet, if they eventually repent, they will be forgiven.

Paul in 1Tim1:13
"Even though I was once a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent man, I was shown mercy because I acted in ignorance and unbelief." NIV

However Blaspheme (blasphemos) has a different context. Jesus did everything through the will of the Father and by the power of the Holy Spirit. To blaspheme (Gk. blasphemos) has the definition:
1) to speak reproachfully, rail at, revile, calumniate, blaspheme
2) to be evil spoken of, reviled, railed at.
not just a "word" or disbelief but an evil,scornful spewing of contempt - ergo: equating the Holy Spirit with Satan.

"So, in a true sense, what Jesus did, He did by the power of the Holy Spirit working through him. His virgin birth was conceived of the Spirit. His empowerment for ministry was at his baptism and was generated by the Holy Spirit. And so, Jesus operated on the principle of submission to the Father and the power of the Holy Spirit."
http://www.biblebb.com/files/macqa/1301-B-8.htm

So what is going on?

["Now, it was one thing (notice in verse 32) to speak against the Son of Man, to say something against the humanness of Jesus or against his earthly presence or his earthly work. But to blaspheme the Holy Spirit was quite another thing.

Now, what it means is this: these people had received all the revelation they could receive. They had heard Jesus teach—and He said, “You should believe me for the words I speak.” They had seen the works that He had done, miracle after miracle after miracle… Many of them. So many of them that John says in John 20, “I suppose that if all the things that Jesus did were written, the books of all the world couldn’t hold them.” They had seen hundreds and perhaps thousands upon thousands of miracles. And Jesus said, “If you won’t believe me for the words, believe me for the very”—what? “Works’ sake.”

The point here is, here were a group of men, the leaders of Israel, who had had the epitome of revelation. They had it all. The fulfillment of all Messianic prophecy in the Old Testament, the corroboration by the very statements of Christ and the deeds of Christ that He was the Messiah, and their conclusion was that He was of Satan. Now, what happened? With all the revelation that God could possibly give them, they concluded the very opposite. And our Lord says, “It’s impossible for you to be saved.” Why? “Because when you had all the revelation, you concluded that I was satanic.” That’s hopeless. That’s hopeless."]- ibid.

So after all this revelation the Pharisees not only rejected Jesus, but they concluded in an evil scornful manner that his power came from the "Adversary" of God.

I don't think it is that the Holy Spirit CAN NOT forgive, but rather given the knowledge of the blasphemers it WILL NOT be forgiven.

[Note: There is much discussion over the application of this passage. I side with the "school of thought" that this is a statement made for a point in time. Jesus is physically on earth and working through the Holy Spirit. People see the miracles with their own eyes. That situation does not occur today, so I do not believe you can blaspheme the Holy Spirit today - as it is talking about in this passage.]

Well, maybe easier but not shorter :)

Deuteronomy 31:1-32:27

So Moses is giving this speech when he is 120 years old. That means God called him to active service when he was about to reach 80 years of age. Many people in their late thirties and early forties feel like failures because they haven’t accomplished what they wanted to do. Pictures of a wasted life filter through their minds, so they just hang out on the earth breathing until their bodies die, after having already died waiting in their despair. Moses was going up and down mountains, walking through deserts over rivers and through the woods crossing dales, and I don’t think he had an over weight problem. Just thinking about Moses, the age of his call, the things he did, the responsibility he shouldered, should give every Senior Citizen not only a new lease on life, but a glimpse of what is possible if one yields themselves to the will of God. Wow, wow, wow!!

Even when one is given a sad song to sing, given a glimpse into future behavior, that is not only not nice, but reprehensible; redemptive hope can be seen in the future, in the distance ahead, past the misery, the Redeemer waits for the Fullness of Time to make Himself known in your life.

Grace and peace,
Ramona

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