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There seems to be so many sides to David,it's amazing.He called Saul father and the words he spoke seem filled with pain.David didn't seem angry at Saul,just deeply hurt.He didn't act in anger even when Saul was close by...anger would have led him Kill Saul.
Yet in the case of Nabal,David doesn't seem so humble any more.I would presume a godly man would protect others not so they'd pay him back,rather would look to God for his needs.True,hospitality was expected in those days,it may have even been a custom to invite people during a time of feasting.Nabal should have been filled with gratitude that David who had fought so many battles for the Lord had protected his sheep yet David should have let God avenge the wrong doing but he set out furious to kill him.Then women become a problem.David doesn't ever mention his wife Michal,when Abigail becomes a widow he marries her as well as Ahinoam so David now lives with 2 women and has a third wife somewhere.Ramona mentioned not forsaking the gathering of believers in an email and here I see the consequences of running with the wrong crowd.His men urged him to kill Saul,maybe(just guessing)they also incited him against Nabal.David God had said was a man after his own heart yet here I see a man who is really far from perfect and honestly,no woman's dream husband.
Prayer life:personally I have heard of being in the Lord's presence,fullness of Joy,great experiences.For me,sometimes it takes a lot of faith to keep on keeping on in prayer.There are times that I wonder if there's something I'm doing wrong.I've heard about prayer time being a time when you talk to god and God talks back.Well faith is the evidence of things not seen...prayer for me is just talking,hoping against hope that I'm not just speaking to myself and that someday I too can be part of that fullness of joy that comes from being alone in God's presence and not emotional joy that comes from a good worship song during service.
God bless you all


God bless you richly. Your desire to persevere though these doubts haunt you attests to your honesty and sincerity.

Interesting the verse you cited. In our study of Ephesians last night, that very verse was discussed at length regarding our faith: The "substance" of things hoped for and the "evidence" of things not seen.

Our pastor's son has a tee shirt that says something like: It is not faith if you can see it. :) A simple axiom that really delivers the punch, eh?


Okay, now on to today's text:

It was interesting to me that God shows us the true humanity of the people in His word, the Bible. I recall being a kid when western movies were the "rage," and one of my 7-year-old friends asked his mother: "When do cowboys go to the bathroom?"

Is there any other time that an opportunity could have arisen for David to find King Saul ALONE?

I liked how Mike explained how this was a test for David--one that Saul had failed: The test of humility, eh? I mean, Saul would have certainly used this occasion to boost his own ego and brag about his prowess, but David trusted God. That is how I WANT to live my life, and I really want to not be seeking validation or recognition for things. A truly humble person recognizes it is God who elevates, and all the more when we allow Him to get all the glory.

Such a brief eulogy for Samuel. I would like to have known more about that precious Saint! He began at such a young age apart from the nurturing love of his mother. He was probably raised in strict "LAW" by Eli. We know that at a very early God summoned him when he called to him and Samuel thought it was Eli calling him.

It seems we only got a glimpse of his ministry when God told him to annoint Saul as king, and then later he then was sent to Jesse and annointed David.

Nabal and Abigail ~

I wondered how Abigail ended up with such an evil man, and I guess because I am so influenced by Paul when he says women are to respect their husbands that, well-- she didn't. She said his name meant "fool," which it probably (most certainly--the Bible says so!) did--but why would a mother name her child "Fool?" and then she made it clear she had no respect for the man; maybe rightly so, and certainly she showed immense wisdom in counselling David in her apology (women are so manipulative, aren't we?), and this resulted in David doing "the right thing." Nevertheless, I have to wonder if she was as disrespectful to David after he married her.

We know that Echnaton (=Akhenaten, who is King Saul) obtained a Queen of the Amazons from around the Black Sea as his wife (this was Nefertiti). She was the HITTITE QUEEN. Indeed, when Saul died, it was Nefertiti, under the name Ankhesenamun (= Ahinoam, A(nkh)-he-noam) who asked for a Hittite son to be King of Egypt:

"According to Hittite history, it was during the seige of Carchemish that Suppiluliumas received a message from widowed Queen Ankhesenamun, asking him for one of his sons to be king of Egypt."

Nefertiti was the wife of Echnaton (neo-Egyptological Akhenaten), both wrongly transcribed. Echnaton is actually King Saul of the Bible. Echnaton is Ish-Naton "father Nathan" and his (i.e. Saul's) son Jonathan is "young Nathan", Jo-Naton, so that these were Nathan Sr. and Nathan Jr. One could also view the names as being old (n)Aton and young Aton. Nathan in Hebrew means "gift of God" and compares to Adonis or Adonija.

Certainly David did not marry the same Ahinoam of Jezreel that Saul married; maybe Ahinoam was a common name of the time?

On to John:

So many times I hear skeptics say: "But Jesus never claimed to be God," and those who have gotten into cults where they believe that Jesus is not truly God. This text is definitely a "keeper," as it leaves no wiggle room for those skeptics. Of course, I realize our "world view" influences our beliefs, but this is pretty much a proof text, isn't it?


I love the Lord for He heard my voice--show me an idol that we make that can do that!

Oh, the confidence we have when we believe the Lord's word and know that He hears our voice, that when we cry out to Him for mercy, He sees and hears us.

I wondered why the death of His saints was precious in the sight of the Lord, and then I thought of the bliss heaven will bring, and how being in the presence of the Lord would be exceedingly joyful--but on further meditation on this verse I realized that the death of His saints means the LIFE of Christ is lived within us!

Oh to have the mind of Christ! To live is Christ; to die is gain!

Wisdom in the Proverbs! The Holy Spirit imparts wisdom to us, and Jesus graciously left this earth to send us the Holy Spirit.

We can do all things through Christ who strengthens us! Praise God and Hallelu Yah!

In regard to this scripture: First Samuel 24 verses 5 through 7 are a great look at David's character when Saul was in the cave - "But then David's conscience began bothering him because he had cut Saul's robe. "The LORD knows I shouldn't have done it," he said to his men. "It is a serious thing to attack the LORD's anointed one, for the LORD himself has chosen him." So David sharply rebuked his men and did not let them kill Saul."

Did David not know that the anointing had left Saul...or was he/David just respecting the office of the anointed??? The "anointed one" means Christ-like & Saul was everything but at the time of this incident.


thanks for your kind words,I know God says those who seek him with all their heart will find him...and his ways are far higher than ours.This thought just ran through my head,if worshipping and fellowshipping with God is all about him,I guess I should stop asking the"why don't I feel"questions and continue to honor God ...:)

Verification of Old Testament

Part of John 10:35
"-and the Scripture cannot be broken-"

Words spoken by Jesus that authenticate the Old Testament.

The Dead Sea Scrolls were from the time shortly before Christ. They authenticated the Old Testament copies of 1000 A.D. Almost an exact match.

So Jesus saying the content of the Old Testament is valid, authenticates the Old Testament we read today.

Of course the interpretation is up debated from time to time, but the content (text) is the "WORD" of God.

John 10

The Good Shepherd

Literal translation:
"I am the shepherd, the good one..."

good (gk.kalos) means excellent, preeminent, lovely, beautiful.

"I am the shepherd, the excellent preeminent, lovely, beautiful one."

In John 6 Jesus is greater than Moses, In John 8 Jesus is greater than Abraham, Here in John 10 Jesus says he is the preeminent shepherd. Thus Jesus is greater than David.

In addition there is a claim to deity. Psalm 80 calls God the Shepherd of Israel. The Jew knew that the true excellent Shepherd was God.

vs. 11
...The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.

Foreshadowing crucifixion, but the word of note here is "life". Greek has two words for life:
bios - just the breathing part of life
zoe - the circumstances of life

But John uses "psuche" for life it means a man's soul,the total man inside.

The Good shepherd poured out his soul for his sheep, and Matthew uses the same word for life in Matt 20:28. Jesus did not just die on the cross, he gave his comlpete being, everything he had for us.

"The good shepherd lays down his life FOR the sheep."

"For" is Gk.huper. Means in behalf of, for the sake of. For their sake, for our sake he died on the cross.

Vs. 14
"I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me— "

Every "know" in this chapter is Gk. ginosko. It is the same know as Matt 7:23. It is the intimate, personal knowledge of one antoher, symbolized by the coupling of man and wife, two as one. That is how Jesus knows his sheep, how the Father and He know each other, and if we are saved how we are to know Christ and He us.
John 10:26-28
"but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand."

John 10:16
"I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd."

These passages are really the first I can recall that emphasize my belief in election and the security of salvation.

His sheep will hear his voice and follow. Other sheep (Gentiles) will also hear and follow forming one flock. Other sheep will not follow because they are not His sheep. You must be His sheep to hear and follow Jesus. No one can snatch one of His sheep out of His hand.

"and they shall never perish....of my hand." gives me assurance in my salvation. Not having to worry about that, I can concentrate on my growth as a Christian.

If one does not believe in "election" that is ok by me. I just say to people: "Fine, WHOMSOEVER WILL."

A few weeks ago I attended a Leadership Summit with John Bevere and he related the submissiveness and servanthood of David to our lives today. Our own reactions towards our Prime Ministers or Presidents and to our bosses at our respective jobs. I thought it was quite challenging what JB preached but by re-reading the encounter between Saul and David I can truly admire the humility that David displays. How true is it that in today's society we criticise our leaders, sometimes seeking to break them down to seek revenge. In the example of David we should acknowledge God's sovereignty and leave it all up to God. It is a true test of our own surrender to God. Our human nature goes against humility and servanthood. We believe in standing up for our rights no matter who or what we trample along the way. If in todays reading we read that David had killed Saul I am sure that we would have accepted this outcome entirely. David would have stood up for his rights by killing Saul and in the process gain immediate recognition as King. Very tempting indeed! Instead he chose to put his own life at risk by confronting Saul in total humility, acknowledging him as his King..."Then David went out of the cave and called out to Saul, "My lord the king!" When Saul looked behind him, David bowed down and prostrated himself with his face to the ground..."(1 Samuel 24:8) David is not judgemental of Saul's wrongdoings instead he leaves it all in the hands of The LORD..." May the LORD judge between you and me. And may the LORD avenge the wrongs you have done to me, but my hand will not touch you. 13 As the old saying goes, 'From evildoers come evil deeds,' so my hand will not touch you.(1 Samuel 24:12-13) A true example of faith in God!
May the Lord almighty help us surrender to Him by teaching us humility and servanthood during our earthly existence.

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