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In 1 Samuel 30, the Amalekites overtake the Israelites and capture all the wives and children and everyone is in a state of mourning. Notice the great distress David is in:
"David was greatly distressed because the men were talking of stoning him; each one was bitter in spirit because of his sons and daughters. But David found strength in the LORD his God."

When everything and everyone is against us, can we strengthen ourselves in the Lord like David did? By the end of the chapter, David recovers all who has been captured, and all the belongings. This is how God wants to restore us who look to Him for strength

1 Samuel 29:1-31:13

Even when we have made alliances with the “enemy” for what we think is self-preservation; even when our actions cause pain and grief to others as well as ourselves—the city of Ziklag being taken, burned to the ground and everything that was in it carried off, God stills fights our “other” enemies and restores everything that has been stolen. Interestingly enough the town/city of Ziklag was not a town that should have been possessed by the Philistines, that city was part of Judah’s inheritance that had been taken from them during the time of the Judges. (See Joshua 15:21-31 for Judah’s inheritance) Therefore, God will restore all things lost by previous generations.

There is something here that I always considered just part of the narrative, the finding of the Egyptian in the desert as David and his men chased after the Amalekites. Now I see that it points to Jesus’ Parable of the Good Samaritan. They army, like the Samaritan, was on a mission. In the King James Translations the use of the words, “by chance” describes how the priest and the Levite happened upon the man left half-dead; however, the Samaritan was on a “journey.” When we are on a journey, we will meet up with the people we are called to minister to; however, when we are traveling “by chance” we will pass folk by. Meeting up with those people and ministering to them will send us down the correct road that leads to complete restoration.

Some of the men of David’s army showed mercy to this Egyptian they found in the desert. They brought him back to David, they fed him and gave him something to drink, and they restored him. That act of kindness led them to the men they were seeking. Usually armies, especially back then, were ruthless in their pursuit. If you happened to be in there way while they were on the move, their feet, horses and chariots would crush you. What happened to the Egyptian is a clear “type” of Christ’s mercy, or the Mercy of God.

The second thing I observed, and am rethinking in a different way is Saul’s suicide. I had come to think that Saul was a coward and didn’t want to suffer the pain of a lingering death, but now I’m wondering if what he did was a continuation of his rebellion to the Word of God. Samuel had told him, the night before:

Since you did not obey the LORD and did not carry out his fierce anger against the Amalekites, the LORD has done this thing to you today. The LORD will hand you and Israel over to the Philistines! Tomorrow both you and your sons will be with me. The LORD will also hand the army of Israel over to the Philistines!" (1 Samuel 28:18-19 NET.)

My thinking is this: Did Saul fall on his sword thinking that in so doing he would place his dying, and how he died, in his own hands and defy the words spoken by the prophet Samuel. Hmmm.

Grace and peace,
Ramona

It is difficult for me to understand how David could align with the Philistines. In particular, the Philistines were the very enemy David had fought, killing Goliath, and ... Hey! What happened to the Philistines being slaves to the Hebrews for having killed Goliath. Wasn't that supposed to be the challenge Goliath put forth? No honor there, I guess.

Of course, I must get some perspective here, as in reading the text (what did it take us, a week?) from the time of Saul's coronation to the end of his life, I sometimes forget he was made king at age 30 and died at age 72! A whole bunch of history took place in that 42 years, didn't it?

Okay, so maybe the Philistines WERE in bondage to the Hebrews for some time, but it doesn't seem it lasted long since there seemed to be constant conflict between them and Saul.

Do you suppose David really was planning to deceive Achish? I think God was so gracious in causing David to have to turn back, and . . .

What of the gratitude of the Philistines when they learned that David and his men had recovered all the plunder? So many blanks that are not filled in, but that would probably be "a rabbit trail," huh? I mean, God told us what it was important for us to know, and sometimes I want to know specifics that really are not that pertinent at all. hmmm.

A few days ago I expressed concern about the Psalm where it said how precious to the Lord is the death of his saints, and I get a glimpse of what that could have meant when I see the utter devastation that overtook David and his men when their wives had been captured. I think it shows how very much these women meant to these men, and "how precious" it was to me to see them weeping to the point of sheer exhaustion over their wives having been kidnapped.

I wonder what ultimately happened to that Egyptian? Think he joined up with David and his men, or went back to Egypt? Or, or... or (smile; see? I want to know the "rest of the story" )

Now, why was David so generous with his plunder of the Amalekites? "27 He sent it to those who were in Bethel, Ramoth Negev and Jattir; 28 to those in Aroer, Siphmoth, Eshtemoa 29 and Racal; to those in the towns of the Jerahmeelites and the Kenites; 30 to those in Hormah, Bor Ashan, Athach 31 and Hebron; and to those in all the other places where David and his men had roamed." Had these nations shown kindness to David and his men during the time he had been pursued by Saul?

I know, I know...I have too many questions.

I have to wonder to where the Israelites fled when the Philistines conquered Saul's army and Saul and his sons died.

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I always thought Hosanna meant Praise to God, and I am delighted to learn it means Save! even though it became an expression of praise.

It seems that John's text is a little different from the other gospels in that in Matthew, Mark, and Luke Jesus told his disciples: "Mt:21:2: Saying unto them, Go into the village over against you, and straightway ye shall find an ass tied, and a colt with her: loose them, and bring them unto me."

"Mk:11:2: And saith unto them, Go your way into the village over against you: and as soon as ye be entered into it, ye shall find a colt tied, whereon never man sat; loose him, and bring him."


"Lk:19:30: Saying, Go ye into the village over against you; in the which at your entering ye shall find a colt tied, whereon yet never man sat: loose him, and bring him hither."
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Does it get any better than this? "His love endures forever!" Doesn't that song resound in your ears? Praise God for songs!
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Interesting that the Psalm requires WISDOM for the "path of life to lead upward,"

and indicates that the PURE are pleasing to Him,

and yet, no requirement for the widow: He keeps the widows boundaries intact.

What amazing protection God affords those who are without providers!

His love really does endure forever, doesn't it?

Have a blessed Son-Day, everyone!

Sue,

One (1) of your questions dovetails with something that struck me in the reading.

David's Plunder (gifts)

When David shared equally with the soldiers, who had stayed behind with the supplies, it reminded me of the parable of field hands working different hours. All field hands received the same daily wage no matter how long they worked that day. The ones who worked longer were upset.

The (type) lesson here in 1Sam30 is the same as the parable. All who are of Christ, no matter their role or how long they have been "believers" get the same base pay/share - "salvation". Just as all the soldiers shared equally and all the field hands received the same amount. What is not talked about is the rewards to believers, but that is a different topic - this is about the base pay/division of gifts.

As to Sue's point about gift distribution to cities. I think if you look at the cities (and the text says) they are in Judah (I just did a quick google search that makes this seem correct.) The spoils were not shared with Philistines but with his tribesmen.

Why? Perhaps David's time with the Philistines had "frosted" those in Judah that were partial (in his camp) to David. If you like, a way of making amends.

and/or David was just generous and it was his way of thanking (when he was in a position to do so) those cities and areas that had been kind to him during his evasion of Saul.

Sue,

You go to the movies with a group of people. Your husband is in the group. The next day you relate to a co-worker a funny moment at the movie between you and husband. You never mention the other people.

Why?

Because it is not relevant to the "funny moment". Does not make your version of the moment "untrue". The moment is told from your perspective according to the point you want to make.

Gospel of John is all bout the Glory of God and Jesus' deity. I suppose the details of animal procurement were not relevant to John, just that Christ rode on one and fulfilled prohecy.

As to the number of animals being different in the different gospels.

http://www.carm.org/diff/Mark11_2.htm

You may have been making a rhetorical point in your observation, but this is something I have wanted to post for some time for people that have difficulty with "different versions" of "same event" in the Gospels :)

I have a question regarding Michal (David's wife given to him by Saul for bringing back 200 foreskins of Philistine men/one of Saul's daughters): it says later that Saul gave her to another man & they were married...is this the same "Michal" that chided/taunted David for dancing before the Lord & handmaindens?!?!?! Because in 1 Samuel 25:44 - it says that "Saul, meanwhile, had given his daughter Michal, David's wife, to a man from Gallim named Palti son of Laish.

I haven't read yet where she became David's wife again?!?!?!

jan

Jan

2Sam3:13-16

http://www.biblebb.com/files/KSS/kss-michal.htm

Yes, it is the same "Michal".

I find it slightly strange that it doesn't record in this reading if David had asked the Lord when he joined the army of the Philistine....yet when he wanted to pursue the Amalekites he did.Could it be possible that David didn't ask God because he knew God may say no and that would mean a confrontation between him and king Achish.If this was the case it was due to a lack of faith not outright defiance that David didn't ask God before joining the army..
Expensive oil...The accounts of this story in different gospels make me wonder....was Mary sister of Martha and Lazarus the woman that was caught in the very act of adultery?In Luke she's called a sinful woman....in the others Mary..I have not found any conclusive verse or commentary on this but if it's so then it must really show why Mary was so grateful to Jesus and why she spared no costs in her worship of Him.
God bless you all

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