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Judging

Since I struggled with concept of "judging" others (1Cor2and 5), I decided to look around. Found this:

http://www.christianarsenal.com/Apologetics/Discernment.htm

It is a tad long, but is very readable. It helped clarify some of my existing thoughts. Also gave me some overall perspective on the variation in tpyes of judgment.

I WANT TO THANK God for the “One Year Bible Blog”. In my daily readings, I find jewels that I study and treasure, and wonderful spiritual food I can chew on long after the day of the particular reading.

EXAMPLE:
I am still meditating on Psalm 25 (NKJV):
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All the paths of the LORD are mercy and truth, to such as keep His covenant and His testimonies.
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For Your name’s sake, O LORD, pardon my iniquity, for it is great.
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Who is the man that fears the LORD? Him shall He teach in the way He chooses. [Or… in the way that He should choose]
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He himself shall dwell in prosperity [Literally, goodness], and his descendants shall inherit the earth.
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The secret of the LORD is with those who fear Him, and He will show them His covenant.

NOTE:
I really like that word: truth. The Hebrew word is ‘emet (Strongs #571). It means “certainty, stability, truth, rightness, trustworthiness”.

It conveys a sense of dependability, firmness, and reliability. Truth is something you and I can stake our lives upon with complete confidence.

I SO LONG for that intimacy with God IN TRUTH.

I SO LONG for God to show me and to “teach [me] in the way He chooses”.

I SO LONG to be deeply rooted and established in GOD’S GOODNESS and prosperity—so I am always live in wisdom and free from debt. Then, I can
always free to give to others of my time, money, love because of what God has given me.

I SO LONG for INTIMACY WITH GOD so He can reveal to me in personal friendship HIS COVENANT.

I SO LONG to have such a PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST that is SO ROOTED IN SPIRIT AND TRUTH (John 4:24) that others encounter the Lord Jesus through me—so they can be led to personally and truly know the Lord Jesus as Savior and become a disciple!

THANK YOU FOR THE DAILY READINGS.
~~~

Ezra 10 (NKJV)
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Now while Ezra was praying, and while he was confessing, weeping, and bowing down before the house of God, a very large assembly of men, women, and children gathered to him from Israel; for the people wept very bitterly.
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And Shechaniah the son of Jehiel, one of the sons of Elam, spoke up and said to Ezra, “We have trespassed against our God, and have taken pagan wives from the peoples of the land; yet now there is hope in Israel in spite of this.
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Now therefore, let us make a covenant with our God to put away all these wives and those who have been born to them, according to the advice of my master and of those who tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law.

NOTE:
Note the word “covenant”.

Covenant is a “cutting away” from what is bad, evil, sinful, or that which is less good and not God’s will in any way.

Covenant is also a permanent binding to God and to what is good.

Note the suffering the people were feeling. We will suffer in this life. PERIOD.

We either will suffer because we embrace suffering as we seek the Lord in prayer to have His strength to resist sin and obey God. This is suffering in a redemptive fashion (all who know Christ will suffer in this life through persecution and through Satan’s attacks).

Or…we will suffer the destructive and hurtful consequences because of our sin. It is our choice.

I Peter 4 (NKJV)
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Therefore, since Christ suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same mind, for he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin

May we suffer ON THE FRONT END… and be cleansed from sin—so we can be ESTABLISHED IN TRUTH and in PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP OF COVENANT WITH GOD.

Then others can learn from us—in all our weaknesses—how to have a real, personal relationship with Christ.

For we can only share and give out of what we have and experience.
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I Corinthians 6 (NKJV)

May we come to really know the relationship we have with Christ because of GRACE:

I Corinthians 6 (NKJV)
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Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
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Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life?

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But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.

If we truly know who we are, then we would never want to sin for we would always see how GLORIOUS and TRUE and WONDERFUL Jesus is. AND WE will see the AUTHORITY that Jesus has literally invested in us-- so we can do His will and honor God.

Jesus said in Matthew 28:

"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore, go and make disciples."
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To sin sexually really is a sin against the body, and against our very being. When we focus on sexual thoughts, certain chemicals and hormones which give pleasure are released into our body.

If the sexual thoughts and the sexual act is not confined to a loving, committed marriage—then a person becomes enslaved and literally “addicted” to the hormones and chemicals in the human body released by sexual thoughts.

Jesus said—and may we also say: “Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.” (Matthew 5)

May we always give ourselves over to the Lord, and may we always do the right thing—our of love and worship to God.

Vance

I can't help but wonder what happened to the pagan wives and children who were sent away from the men. Were they cared for? Were they left destitute? The sin was the husband's not the family's and they are paying a very high price.

It's just the opposite of Paul's teaching in the New Testament about unbelieving spouses. According to him the marriage is binding and you are to hope that the spouse will convert and the children themselves are considered clean. I find this passage very disturbing, especially since the wife and children are left as widows and orphans, who are close to God's heart. Any thoughts?

I also thought that it was unfair to the wives and the children to be sent away like that. But then I realized that they gave them a few days and assembled all the men who had married foreign women and that was probably to judge if these women were like Ruth, who wanted to stay and who loved God. Granted, it doesn't mention if these women and their children stayed or went but then it doesn't say if Boaz loved Ruth or that Ruth loved Boaz.....

I was also alarmed by the thought that God would want these foreign wives 'put away' from His people. What would happen to them? I get that it would have been better if they hadn't married them in the first place and I understand the prohibition against these women (inviting paganism into your household is a stupid thing to do). But, I can hardly imagine that their own countrymen would want them after they were tainted by marriage to the exiles. So, they would be left as widows in a place that had no use for them. How can that be the heart of God? Was there any provision given to these women?

It does not seem to indicate that the children were to be sent away with the women. From what I understand, children were the property of the father. What kind of psychological affect would that have on a kid? "I'm sorry, you have to come with me, but your mother is wicked and evil and must be put away from us." How does that draw that child to the one true God? Wouldn't he feel resentful toward his father and the God of his fathers?

In some ways, I hope that we aren't getting the whole story here. I know that God is just. But He is also merciful and kind. Even Ishmael was given a blessing. The promise was to be fulfilled through Isaac, but Ishmael was still blessed. I guess that's why it's better to do what is right and just in the first place than to offer sacrifices afterward. Our sin doesn't just affect us.

I think of Haggi & Ishmael & that God told Abraham to listen & do what his wife Sarah said/told him to do - send them away (when it was Sarah's unblief/doubt of what God could do & took things into her own hands to "try" to produce a child-she succeded alright & now we have unrest in the Middle East - which is all part of the plan any way). But God took care of Haggi & Ishmael in the desert & provided for them & they did not die (God's unfailing love & mercy once again).

Also, I think of Moses & Miriam & how they spoke negatively against Moses' Ethopian wife & Miriam was struck with leprosy over that negative behavior/action/judgement.

As I have been told by someone through which the Holy Spirit spoke to me (like the donkey speaking to Baalam); it is not for me to understand. The Word of God says there are mysteries we will never understand & His ways/thoughts are higher than ours & we can try to reason all day long - but not come up with the correct answer in our finite minds/brains (although I confess/declare daily that I have the mind of Christ).

Perhaps at this point in time, it is not for us to understand - but to trust that Father knows best (after all)!

jan

I have read one book, "Sex & the Supremacy of Christ" by John Piper/Justin Taylor & now reading "Soul Virgins/Redefining Single Sexuality" by Doug Rosenau/Michael Todd Wilson - both good books to help us stay pure & chaste.

Ezra 10

What happened to women and children.

"Send away" in NIV and "put away" KJV means divorce.

Did some checking.

In Judaic Law of OT the "Bill of Divorce" must be written up before authorities. I suppose those were men selected by Ezra in verse 16.

If the man gave a dowry the family could keep it. If, as in the cases with some Gentiles, a dowry was given to man - it was returned.

An income was negotiated for wives and children.

Additional expenses (usually for children) could be added in the "bill of divorce" (but this may have been a later addition to the Law).

The main important point of the bill was to - maintain the woman was separated and eligible to marry again.

[Note: does all this sound familiar?]

The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, Grand Rapids, MI., 1979, p. 975
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It seems most commentators that care to mention it - and there are not many - believe the children were considered part of a (conceptually)illegitimate marriage and would go with the mother. But I have no actual reliable Judaic sources for this comment.


I have thought about those children and their mothers all day! Being a mother and a grandmother, and being one that knows the New Testament Scripture says we should love our enemies, it just seems so harsh! Life is not always fair and most times it is the innocent that is hurt by the actions of the sinner. I just lift up Jesus Christ and praise the Lord that I live under the new covenent and not the one of the Old Testament.

1Chronicles6

Lawsuits

Interesting thoughts: especially in light of America's litigious society.

Why bring lawsuits between Christians before unbelievers. Not only does it give them a chance to blaspheme God (by ridiculing Christians, and thus Christ)- but -

Do you know who you are? You will judge the world and angels in your "glorified state". The "judging here is "krinos" usually reserved for God.

There is argument here whether we are delegated to judge by God, or as "one in Christ", perfectly glorified in heaven, through Jesus' judgment we are also involved. Regardless, the notion is we will be an integral part of the process.

If that is true can we not judge (different greek word) small, trivial, insignificant cases within the body? Can you not adjudicate these cases without involving the outside world.

[note: I don't think Paul is referring to capital cases, but civil cases.]

In small things, why even go to any trial? Why not as Jesus said in Matt 18? We should be looking for reconciliation and restoration with each other - not justice (to see someone punished.)We do not want to ask God for justice when wronged - if we got Justice (in God's view) none of us would be saved.

Why even do it in the first place? Why not submit to the wrong? Ref: 2peter. Christ's crucifixion was the ultimate wrong and he submitted - are you better than Jesus? If you look closely there are probably things you do to other Christians that are wrong. Why this quibbling over trivial matters. Again - go for reconciling and restoration.
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I do not think Paul's list is exhaustive in verse 9, but representative of what was going on in Corinth.

For some of the Christians were like those on the list, but....

"...you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God." NIV

Paul is pounding the table here - getting their attention. The pronoun "you" is generally denoted by verb form in Greek, but here Paul includes the verb form and the pronoun. This is for EXTRA emphasis. And the Action is in aorist tense to denote completed acts. Paul is emphatically saying - this is what you are - implying - now act like it.
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"Everything is permissible for me"— Paul is quoting the philosophy of Corinth. It is a hedonist philosophy. The Greek thought the spirit was everything, and the body nothing. Therefore, they can do anything they want with the body - for after death it is the spirit that counts.

It may be permissable in Corinth, but it is not beneficial or good to be mastered by the flesh for a Christian. Just because it is legal in Corinth, Christians are not to live a life of hedonism. We are held to a higher standard.

We are to flee form "porneia" - "illicit sex". Paul is not just talking about prostitution here, but illicit sex in general (to be addressed later). However prostitution may be the bigest offense going in Corinth with 1,000 temple prostitutes at Venus' temple.

"Fleeing" is an ongoing command in the Greek. When you sin here it is more vile to the body because of God's commands about marriage and "cleaving" to each other as one.

For we are a "temple" of the Holy Spirit. Greek for temple is "naos" the "Holy of Holies" - the inner sanctum. Earlier in Corinthians Paul said the Church body was this temple, and now it is refined down to each of us.

We were bought with a price. We are God's servants - therfore honor God and give glory to Him.

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