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Who are the glorious ones referred to in 2 Peter 2:10?

Good question Hilary! I read a commentary that said they are the fallen angels of verse 4. The commentary said this - "the false teachers are so brazen and self-assured that they revile the evil spirits as though they were safe from any supernatural evil influence at all. And to show the arrogance of such an attitude of false security, Peter says: even the good angels who, unlike the false teachers, are stronger than the evil ones, nevertheless do not presume to pronounce a reviling judgment on them. They humble themselves and leave judgment to God."

Anyone have other thoughts on the glorious ones?

Mike

"You may keep your gifts for yourself and give your rewards to someone else. Nevertheless, I will read the writing for the king and tell him what it means".Guess age does bring a bit of attitude with it:)but it's sad to see that instead of falling to his knees and repenting Belshazzar tried to gain Daniel's favour..Maybe he thought if he honoured the prophet,God will be pacified...wrong...
Today sadly alot of made up stories(sermons) are hovering around that sound so godly but are in fact fleshy.The devil is a master at diluting the truth...I always pray for God's grace to disern what the truth is...and the answer is always"it is written".The part of scripture that is the scariest to me is the one that people who have worked wonders in the name of Jesus will be turned away by Him because Jesus denies knowing them...If they did miracles in Jesus name...they had some knowledge of Jesus but didn't submit to His word I guess..
"18For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of sinful human nature, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. 19They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity"When I first came to the faith,I always had tape with sermons playing...even slept of with them on.I wouldn't advice that now,when you are new in the faith you may not know when the sermon is Holy Spirit inspired or with subtle fleshy tones that sound godly..
Truly God's grace sustains us and keeps us on track if we keep our eyes on the Jesus the author and finisher of our faith.
God bless you all

thoughts on "the glorious ones"
Jude 1:9
But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not dare to bring a slanderous accusation against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!"
Who are we then to bring slanderous rebukes against satan..I think we need to watch our language and leave judgement to God where the devil is concerned...I think this is what Peter wanted to say...lots of brave teachers put up quite a bit of bravado that exceeds just simple authority when dealing with evil spirits...maybe we should be on the watch when we see things like that....

Daniel v. 22 is so right on. 'You knew all this, but still didnt obey/listen/learn'. I think many of us can relate to that, when we know sumthing is wrong and we deliberately sin. Fortunately God is merciful if we repent and ask for forgiveness. Living one's life this way without repentence is dangerous!! Its not worth it, let's be open to the holy spirit, heed His warnings and obey! I too love Daniel's boldness. I love boldness...that is what the Holy Spirit used to get me...straight out boldness thru a sign a man was holding at a stoplight. Straight out the holy spirit said, 'Jenny, turn now! today! You are on the wrong path and you are on your way to hell!'...i look back on that day...it started out to be the worst day in a long time, but it was all setup by God because I had a divine appointment with Him that night unbeknownst to me. =))

Yes, false teaching and false prophets are prevailant today! A lot of teachers on TV are FULL of it!!! I will boldly say that cuz it angers me greatly! Some are liars and schemers, not all, but many. sometimes i've watched it and cant believe my ears and eyes! and so many ppl are being swayed and deceived. Woe to these false teachers! we need spiritual discernment! A great book is called "Christianity in Crisis" by Hank Henograf, he really goes into the false teachers and names them, some of the "faith healers", "name it and claim it". (not sure what happened to Hank, he got into weird teachings, but the book is right on!) The "emerging church" for example. They dont want to talk about sin, hell, or Jesus' blood cause its 'gory". They dont want to make ppl uncomfortable/offended. what???? We NEED to be uncomfortable and offended when it comes to sin! Jesus talked about hell more then heaven because he DOESNT want anybody to go there! Jesus' blood is the ONLYYYYY atonement for sins, it is the ONLY thing that will cleanse us! if we dont have the BLOOD to cover us, God will look on our sins and see our unrighteous, deserving of death. Christ's righteousness cleanses us and is our only hope!!!. Jesus took the heat for us, literally!

Another church movement where all faiths are merging, lets all love one another, believe what u want...its ok to live how you want, God loves you anyway and accepts you. Yes, God loves sinners, but hates sin, it isnt acceptable! those who do not turn from their sin and receive Christ's atonement will be damned!

I love Ps. v 114 "You are my refuge and my shield; your word is my only source of hope." The more i grow in Him, the more I see He is truley my all and all.... didnt always underatnd that, or what it meant to be truely dependant on Him. God had to and still has to give me some hard lessons so I learn this. Its the best thing in the world though I tell you!

I love these Psalms! v. 116 "Sustain me according to your promise...do not let my hopes be dashed"

Hard work i agree is essential. no matter our job, remember, we work for the Lord. Believers should be the hardest workers at their job and not motivated primarily by monetary gain, but motivated because we love the Lord and want to please Him first.

I am a little confused and I feel like I am walking on dark territory. I have not read the bible like you have but I read the first chapter and by only reading Genesis I can tell you that I did not believe what I was reading. I cannot understand that GOd that is love would do those things. The flood, the daughters sleeping with their father while he was asleep, circumsicion and how woman are so bad. I have started researching on alot of things everyday and it all started by seeing how 9/11 was an inside job. How can the government do that? Is there other things I believed and trusted that are not true? I learned a little about religions and world history and truly think that i should expect the unexpected. If there are false prophets then the bible may not be right completely. I am becoming very spiritual and becuase this is all coming to me I see things very differently.

FALSE TEACHERS- Yes we do have false teachers in our world and I am reminded of this scripture a lot whenever I run across people who distort the gospel. I'm afraid we see them more than most people would like to believe. They come smooth talking and sounding good but their message doesn't match up to the gospel.

Wow great awesome - and like a two edged sword-ish!

These words Mene, mene tekel parsin- what an aweful feeling to be on the side of the owner of the wall!

Today, I saw five young people turn away from sin in repentance and turn to trust Christ as the leader of their lives. They just showed up and wanted to watch a movie with me. God took over the whole thing. It was beautiful. They chose the movie - Left Behind!

Thanks for all your hard work here. I read every day - sometimes I have time to comment.

Cristina:
I am glad you have become part of our group reading the one year bible blog with us. As a new Christian the bible can be very confusing. Some people even try to read it who are not Christians and lack Spiritual descernment. Pray that God reveals Himself to you before reading His word and Pray for understanding. This helps me. Also, if you are attending a bible believing church and can be part of a regular bible study, that would really help you. Don't be affraid to ask questions in your bible study or in here. I value the opinions of many of the seasoned Christians that come to this blog, pastors and mature Christians that attend my church. I have questions all the time. Sometimes the answers come later and if I keep reading things become more clear when I've read the "whole story"

You have to just trust God when it comes to the world and the events that are happening now and in the past. He has a plan and purpose for everything that is going on. I really believe that. I hold onto to one of my favorit verses which is Romans 8:28 All things work together for good for those who love the Lord and are called according to His promises.

Things might not make sense to us, but God always knows what He is doing. That is why we are not to lean on our own understanding. Proverbs 3:5-6 says Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will make your paths straight. To some, this might be basic Christianity 101. To new Christians some of these verses are very thought provoking. When you find verses such is these it is best to memorize them. I hear that from pastors all the time. It is important to find verses that really jump out at you. These are the verses God is using to speak to you. It would be of great benefit to you to write them down, highlight them and memorize them.

Happy Holidays to all and May God Richly Bless you!!!!

Daniel 5:1-31


22 “You are his successor, O Belshazzar, and you knew all this, yet you have not humbled yourself. 23 For you have proudly defied the Lord of heaven and have had these cups from his Temple brought before you. You and your nobles and your wives and concubines have been drinking wine from them while praising gods of silver, gold, bronze, iron, wood, and stone—gods that neither see nor hear nor know anything at all.

Soooo, we don’t turn to God when there is a manifestation of God’s Presence; we don’t turn to God when we hear about all the mighty things that God has done. I use to say and I’ve heard others say, “Well if there is really a God, why doesn’t He do this and that so I can really believe that He is.” As Daniel has stated, Belshazzar, knew everything that had happened to his father (17-21) and He knew that it was God, the most High God and not the gods of Babylon but he chose, he made a decision NOT to believe.

The Apostle Paul states in the first chapter of the Book of Romans that we change the truth of God into a lie (1:25) and earlier in the chapter, verses 20-23, Paul states:

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. (Rom 1:20-23)

What is it about man, including woman, that causes us to dwell in the land of “lies?” Why do we despise the truth so vehemently? (Both questions are rhetorical.) Anything built on a lie will collapse.

Grace and peace,
Ramona

hi christina

I invite you to take the way of the master test, and it will show you how good God is. Just go to http://wayofthemaster.com/goodperson.shtml and just be honest with your self.

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