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Could someone please explain Psalm 137:9?

How does the retribution of killing defenseless children make one happy?

Jeff - very good question. I found a few links w/ essays / thoughts on this verse. I'll need to reflect on these - and further study - to see if I agree or disagree w/ what these are saying -

http://www.learnthebible.org/q_a_dashing_little_ones_against_stones.htm

http://www.jimmcguiggan.com/nonbelievers2.asp?id=6

http://www.brfwitness.org/Articles/1986v21n4.htm

Mike

Can you still get your hands on one of those 14th century illuminated bibles? The art is always cool

Can you still get your hands on one of those 14th century illuminated bibles?
The price will be a lot cooler! It will numb you when you Cost them!

Habakkuk 3:17-19 is my favorite scripture selection in the whole Bible.

“Though the fig tree may not blossom and no grapes grow on the vine,
Though the olive crops fail and the fields produce no food,
Though there are no sheep in the pens and the cattle stalls are empty,
I will rejoice in the Lord for He is my Savior. The Lord is my strength.
He makes my feet like the feet of the deer and carries me over the mountain.”

Regardless of what mountain of trouble life places before us, and we all will be faced with those mountains, the Lord will give us the strength to climb over the mountain. “Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows (James 1:17)”. God never strikes us with any form of trouble, and he does not have to test our faith because He is all knowing. We are going to experience all types of problems, strife and turmoil in our lives just because we reside in these earthly bodies here on this planet Earth. It will not be until we join the Lord in His Holy Kingdom that we will be free from the trials of life we now face. What God will do is give us the strength to handle anything life throws on us. He will give us the feet of deer and carry us over the mountain! Praise the Lord!!!!!

Because I love this scripture so, one of the Sunday School classes I taught had it embroidered on a wall hanging for me one Christmas. It hangs in my living room where I read it every day to remind myself that life can’t hand me anything that day that God won’t give me the strength to handle.

God Bless,
Pat

Jeff,

We forget that God is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. Since He also is not constrained by Time, we who live upon the earth are living in time, God dwells in eternity so for Him everything is in the Now---past, present and future.

I believe that God saw and sees past the infancy of the children mentioned and saw their final outcome/choices. Let me make note that God is the ONLY one that can do that. We cannot look at someone's present or past choices and determine whether they will repent, but God can.

The Christian walk is a Faith Walk (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) (2 Corinthians 5:7 KJV) and Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith. (Habakkuk 2:4 KJV). My prayer for you is that God will give you a revelation of who He is, His Justice, His Mercy and Grace and His Judgment. God is not just good; God IS Good and unless you get a revelation of that difference, it will be difficult for you to grasp the understanding of not so innocent children.

Grace and peace,
Ramona

Psalms 137:7-9 “Remember, O LORD, what the Edomites did
on the day Jerusalem fell. "Tear it down," they cried, "tear it down to its foundations!" O Daughter of Babylon, doomed to destruction,
happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us - he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.

Did I read this incorrectly? The way I read this is that the psalmist is asking God to take revenge on the Babylonians who took the babies and dashed them against the rocks and the Edomites who cheered them on. When we studied Hosea and he was prophesizing against the sinful Samarian Israelites and warning them about what the Babylonians were going to do to them, God instructed Hosea to tell the people in Hosea 13:16 “The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the rocks, their pregnant women ripped open." This psalmist is sitting in Babylon and the events occured exactly as Hosea said they would.

I think even though the psalmist recognized that this horrible thing with the babies happened because the people had turned away from God, he still is asking God to take revenge against the Babylonians for their actions, and to even extend the revenge to the Edomites who stood by and cheered them on instead of helping to stop this brutal killing.

God Bless!
Pat

When we pray, God answers our prayers with a yes, no, or wait...i'm really not fond of the latter. Hab. 2:3 "Though it linger, wait for it". This spoke to me...for most of my life the answer has been wait, but I always find the wait, tho hard, is worth it. Some things in my life that i wasnt given or where taken from me earlier were restored to me 10 yrs later. there are prayers i'm still waiting for 16 yrs later. Waiting is hard!!..and doubts creep in, like in Abraham n Sarah's case as well. But it is well worth it..and comes unexpectedly and better then we imagined! these are blessings bestowed on me...not even things i asked for...but out of the Lords grace, be bestowed to me n i realize God restored some of my past. God would remind me, 'remember you missed out on "this"...i am restoring those yrs by giving you "this".' Very healing n all just because God wants to bless me, not that i deserve it.

I also liked Hab. 1:5 "For I am going to do something in your days that you would not believe, even if you were told."......I really feel the Lord speaking this to me now. My flesh is very pessimistic, tend to hope for the best, but expect the worst...kinda a defense i built up from things i suffered.
there are certain things that if you would have told me 10-14 ys ago, i NEVER wouldve believed it, but they came to pass and its amazing! Who knows what the future holds...its in His hands so i dont worry too much, but i think its exciting to see what God is gonna do in my life next.
I like the song Fingerprints of God by Steven C. Chapman...'youre a wonder in the making. and God's not through...in fact, He's just getting started!' ....i love this cause i know each day, each month, each year, God is working out His plan in my life...who He wants me to be and what He wants to do in my life.

Jenny~do you think God makes us wait because he wants to make sure we have "faith"?

Since Babylon is modern day Iraq, I think there is a lot of prohecy in Habakkuk that can be compared to what is happening in the Middle East today. It's like watching God's Word come alive! Very cool!! A reminder to always pray for Jerusalem!

Ch 2:8 "Though it linger, wait for it" That feels like the story of my life right now...but vs. 18 says it all..."yet I will rejoice in the Lord, I will be joyful in God my Savior." I just need to keep remembering He sees the bigger picture. In His timing, not mine.

"Yet I will rejoice in the LORD! I will be joyful in the God of my salvation. The Sovereign LORD is my strength! He will make me as surefooted as a deer and bring me safely over the mountains." Habakkuk 3:18&19

This verse was my insight for today because the Soverign Lord will always be my strength no matter what happens to me as me and Jenny had a discussion the other day and I so appreciated her understandment. The Lord will carry me through everything that I encounter and he will be there for me. I just starting reading Max Lucado's Tough Times and its for People that have gone through something as I have and this book put my mind at a better ease. As I don't question anything in life because God will have my answer and when I get to that spot he will answer my big question.

Thanks Jenny ;)

Revelation 9:20-21 stood out for me to - "But the people who did not die in these plagues still refused to turn from their evil deeds. They continued to worship demons and idols made of gold, silver, bronze, stone, and wood--idols that neither see nor hear nor walk! And they did not repent of their murders or their witchcraft or their immorality or their thefts."

You asked: Is it possible that we receive much less severe signs in our own life today to repent, and we ignore them? Why do we ignore the signs? Is this wise?

For me personally I know I'm not ignoring anything anymore. I might question too much, but I know that will fade the longer I hang on to the Lord. I still question too much cause I'm still a baby in this, if you know what I mean. Before I was saved is a different story; when I look back I now see that Jesus knocked on my door repeatedly and I ignored it. Pretending not too see the signs ... who was I kidding???? I had many signs that I needed to change my live immensly, take another path, but I just didn't listen!!! I'm not really sure what was going through my stubborn head, somehow I didn't think my sins couldn't be washed away. I was pretty weird about this, cause I was brought up with the Bible, I knew about God. I knew about the great tribulation ... I was scared of that! And I was scared of Him! I always thought it was too late for me. Well ... this is not my testimony LOL I'm just thinking out loud what people must think to just go on with their lives, not turning from their evil deeds ... Hold on, I'm not saying that I was evil or something like that!!! But just not changing, even though they witnessed the plagues ...

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