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The version of OT I read said "evil spirit from God came upon Saul". I like your version of "tormenting spirit from God came upon Saul" better. I have difficulty thinking that God would produce "evil". I guess it is like when Moses was in Egypt and God "hardened" Pharoah's heart to not let the Israelites go. God produces the attitude in us that HE needs to do His will.

Food for thought that I will share which pertains to, but not limited to the posted fresco above from 1517 by Raphael of God.

While God our Father has given us an imagination, I think it quite scary when I see images of what people's perception of what God our Father may look like, especially when scripture speaks against such.

I always think of these two scriptures:

No man hath seen God at any time… (John 1:18); and
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image… or any likeness [of anything] that is in heaven above; (Exodus 20:4).

Following is commentary by John Gill in the order of the scripture that is presented.

1. "That is, God the Father, whose voice was never heard, nor his shape seen by angels or men; for though Jacob, Moses, the elders of Israel, Manoah, and his wife, are said to see God, and Job expected to see him with his bodily eyes, and the saints will see him as he is, in which will lie their great happiness; yet all seems to be understood of the second person, who frequently appeared to the Old Testament saints, in an human form, and will be seen by the saints in heaven, in his real human nature; or of God in and by him: for the essence of God is invisible, and not to be seen with the eyes of the body; nor indeed with the eyes of the understanding, so as to comprehend it; nor immediately, but through, and by certain means: God is seen in the works of creation and providence, in the promises, and in his ordinances; but above all, in Christ the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person: this may chiefly intend here, man's not knowing any thing of God in a spiritual and saving way, but in and by Christ; since it follows, the only begotten Son; the word that was with God in the beginning. ..."

2. "An image of anything graven by art or man's device, cut out of wood of stone, and so anything that was molten, or cast into a mould or form, engraved by men, and this in order to be worshipped; for otherwise images of things might be made for other uses and purposes, as the cherubim over the mercy seat, and the brazen serpent, and images and impressions on coin, which we do not find the Jews themselves scrupled to make use of in Christ's time on that account; though they vehemently opposed the setting up any images of the Caesars or emperors in their temple, because they seemed to be placed there as deities, and had a show of religious worship: however, any image of God was not to be made at all, since no similitude was ever seen of him, or any likeness could be conceived; and it must be a gross piece of ignorance, madness, and impudence, to pretend to make one, and great impiety to make it in order to be the object of religious worship; on which account, not any image or the image of anything whatever was to be made: or any likeness [of anything] that is in heaven above; any form, figure, portrait, or picture of anything or creature whatever, whether in the supreme, starry, or airy heaven; as of angels, which some have gone into the worship of; ..."

Let us be careful in all that we do in trying to honor our Father.

I have to say I am confused by the passage "...evil spirit from God came upon Saul"
Did God REALLY send an evil spirit? or what it an attack from Satan? It is the Bible that says it, so it must be true. But I know that when bad things happen I tend to think that its satan attacking me and God is allowing it. I never really read this I guess and see that it WAS GOD that sent the evil spirit. wow.

On the upside... Psalms 112:4 really spoke to me about how God will shine HIS light on us while in our dark times. very encouraging!!

I love that painting by Raphael. I do not bow down to it. I do not worship it. It merely pleases my eye and calms my spirit and prepares my mind to dwell on the Great God of the universe.

Perhaps John Gill has misunderstood me. I have not "seen God." I have instead quieted myself and let him enter my heart and soul.

Yes, Lisa, let us be careful...but also let us be open, even inspired!

Hi Art,

With all due respect, again,

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image… or any likeness [of anything] that is in heaven above; (Exodus 20:4) the bottom line.

Speaking for myself, as you did, my inspiration is worship, praise and reading of the Word - that is what I am opened to and that is what calms my soul and spirit and brings me into that quiet place.

We should be careful where we get our source of inspiration from and I would hope that most do not bow down or worship "it".

And perhap, just perhaps it should be about pleasing God more than ourselves, as we worship Him in Spirit and in Truth.

Mike, your comments about television viewing really spoke to me today, thank you for talking about it. I have been convicted and have been praying about my tv addiction and I think God has spoken to me through you.

Lisa, please remember what the gospel teaches us about the law, which you are quoting; i.e., Rom 3:20 "Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin." Rom 3:21 "But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify." Rom 3:28 "For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law." Rom 4:14 "For if those who live by law are heirs, faith has no value and the promise is worthless."

Greeting JO,

Thank you for your comment from yesterday's post.

I really don't mean for some to get in an uproar.

Maybe I should have just used the scripture from the N.T. "No man hath seen God at any time…" (John 1:18); and simply say how can an artist liken God to be pictured as an image of a man.

And yes JO, thank you for the readings in Romans. I read the scriptures you singled out in chapter 3 of Romans in its context which includes verse 31: "Well then, if we emphasize faith, does this mean that we can forget about the law? Of course not! In fact, only when we have faith do we truly fulfill the law." (Romans 3:31, NLT)

I would suppose it is there for a reason.

Lastly, I will continue to thank God for sending His Son Jesus to redeem me from my awful sins and thank Him for His gift of salvation through the shedding of His blood and that through faith in the person of Jesus, my Lord and Savior, and faith alone I can claim my inheritance!

Peace to all.

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