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Great blog.

I think most of the time when I am compelled to just "utter" before the Lord...whether it is truly tongues or not, I do not know or care, really...it is because I need to surrender reasoning, and yet still remain mighty in prayer. The burden is there, but I cannot think about it in words without worrying myself. So, I just let something come forth that is to him whatever it needs to be.

Scripture says that it's for just the edification of my spirit toward His, so I keep it private.

I am most disturbed at some religious groups trying to control private prayer languages by dictate. I'm not sure that anyone can or should try to dictate another person's prayer life in such a way.

Great thoughts. Hope these help, and wish I had more scripture to back it up. I suppose "Spiritual Authority" by Watchman Nee bleeds into the thoughts for more as much as anything...the surrender of reasoning. "Trust the Lord your God with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding, in all your ways, acknowledge him, and he will direct your paths". That is a good synopsis of it for me. Sweet surrender, stamps with an utterance of praisefuly, trusting, vervent lifting. Incense with a sound.



The "fruits" of the Spirit are more important than the "gifts" of the Spirit.

Paul has just finished talking about the "body of Christ" and all members are important no matter their "gifts".

Remember the Corinthians are enamored with the Spiritual Gifts (byproduct of the Greek Culture), and they place a premium on the gift of "tongues".

Now this has proved distracting at meetings, and/or promoted divisiveness in the Corinthian church.

Three Directives:
-Pursue Love (Gk. implies aggressively)
-desire spiritual gifts (Gk. imples strive or eagerly)
-Especially the gift of prophesy.

Why Prophecy?

Tongues speaks to God.
Prophecy speaks to man.

NOTE: Prophecy is declaring something revealed by divine inspiration: could be future, the gospel, or about the church.

Paul is here in Corinth, as with all the churches he planted, - interested in exhorting, encouraging and edifying the "body". He is primarily interested in the maturing of the individual Christian, and the maturing of the ""body of Christ".

By accomplishing that "maturing" - we, as Christians are saltier, give off more light, and reflect more of God's glory.
Paul,despite what some will say, does not think speaking in tongues is bad.

He would like that all could speak in tongues, but if a choice - he would prefer "prophecy".

Because Prophecy edifies the church. And unless one can interpret or have someone interpret the utterances of tongues - Paul would prefer the understandable language that prophesies.

(Remember Paul is trying to deflate some of the over-emphasis of tongues in the Corinth Church.)

To promote unity and edification of the church, since you seek spiritual gifts - SEEK those in ABUNDANCE that build the church.
If you are going to speak in tongues, pray for an interpretation, so that others can understand the Praise to God and be built up.

The phrase "those who do not understand" in verse 16 is a Greek idiom meanng "inquirers". The thought here may be you have people not yet Christians in the meeting, yet by being there are curious and interested - that would have no idea of what was going on.

[NOTE: I can vouch for that from my visits to some churches after being a Christian less than one year. When the pastors or church members would get into their proclamation to God in tongues - it was disconcerting (at best). I actually looked for the exits.]
1) Paul is not denouncing tongues - If one could ask Paul I would think that the praying in tongues at home or in a private place is fine and good. As a gift of the Spirit it should edify the individual.

2)It makes me wonder about the idea that "tongues" is speaking another (earthly)language. I know two Christians that I trust that say they have witnessed someone speaking another language to a group or individual. The speaker of the language did not know the language or ever study it in his/her life.

I wonder if that is really "tongues". The speaker was not speaking to God, but to individuals on earth. Bob Deffingbaugh addresses this issue, but I still wonder.

Anyway, to sum up, - tongues good;prophecy better. It is ok and good to seek the gifts of the Spirit, but eagerly seek the gifts that especially build up the "body of Christ".

2For anyone who speaks in a tongue[a] does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit.
As a young christian my church encouraged me to"speak in tongues".Though I do agree with Lehman Strauss on several points he brought up...there are some exceptions.
True speaking a language you do not know can be a sign to an unbeliever and can be used as an evangelistic tool.But if the verse says you speak "not unto men but unto God"and you speak mysteries that your mind can't comprehend then I am not fully convinced speaking in tongues is ONLY when you speak in a language previously unknown to you.
I also have a little problem understanding the bit about women being silent in church because later on it says a woman should only prophesy with her head covered....so that really can't happen if she's supposed to be silent.
On the other hand I honestly think the gift of tongues has been misunderstood because it seems to have dimed the most important thing....love.There was a lot of talk about the gift of the spirit like there's now a huge emphasis on how God doesn't want you poor or sick..etc.So much so that it even turns away unbelievers who want to hear about salvation and loving your neighbour as yourself...I'm sure if we abide in Christ and seek to do His will then we'll be on the right track.
On a personal note I have stopped speaking in the "tongues" I had been encouraged to as a new convert because I had some personal doubts about it.I strongly believe that turning the other cheek,interceeding for the lost and the church,loving others as you love yourself(even those you can't seem to love)would shine a brighter light for the world than speaking in an unknown tongue.....
God bless you all

I have not spoken in tongues but all through my journey with Jesus which has been 32 years I have often felt by my tongue speaking well meaning brothers and sisters in Christ that I have been missing something. And that without this 'gift' I am not 'full or totally mature, or that I lack the 'full gospel'. Thank God for this teaching on 1 corinthians 13 to follow the way of love, not the 'way of tongues.' It's interesting that in Galatians 6:1-2 it says, "You who are spiritual should restore such a one with a spirit of gentleness..." So if one were to ask, "What does it mean to be 'spiritual' in the truly Christian sense, what would that mean? One needs look no farther than Galatians 5:22, 23 where it says, "But the fruit of the Spirit is love....and so forth." Why not de-emphasize tongues speaking as the mark of being filled with the Spirit, and emphasize the character fruit of the Spirit??? Seems like we would all be better off if we were actively being formed in Christ through a pursuit of godly character in dependence on the Spirit.

I'm not suggesting that speaking in tongues is wrong. I just think it gets too much attention in certain circles. I think the subject is very complex, but love is NOT complex. Love is a choice!!! not a subjective feeling. Paul reminds us in 1 corinthians 14:1 "Let love be your highest goal..." And Paul gives plenty of guidelines for the proper exercise of gifts. If those who emphasize pursuing tongues are wise they will also pay attention to Paul's guidelines.

by the way, has anyone noticed that Jesus never made mention of tongues, did He?? That doesn't mean tongues cannot be used to come closer to God, but it's still interesting that the highest mark of being a follower of jesus is still Love---'by this all people will know that you are my disciples...if you love one another' (john 13:34,35)

The Lord has layed it on my heart this morning to make a simple statement pertaining to Job 1.

Satan is real! You cannot believe in God and angels and not believe in Satan and demons because at one time Satan was one of God’s angels that resided in Heaven with our Lord. You cannot believe that you live here on this physical planet Earth and not believe that Satan is real and here with us.

When the war in Heaven broke out between Satan and his angels who are called demons and Michael and his angels, Michael was victorious. God cast Satan out of Heaven and he was made to dwell on earth from that point on. (Rev. 12:7-9)

Earth and all upon it including mankind had already been created before Satan and his demons were condemned to Earth. Mankind was the last of God’s creations on earth and he/she was created to have dominion over (rule over) everything on earth. (Gen. 1:26) That means that mankind has dominion over Satan here on earth. Think about what a slap in the face that was to Satan. He was condemned to Earth to be under the dominance of man, who was actually created a little less than the angels!

This dominion is not a free gift. It is one of constant struggle. Satan and the demons are the wildest of the wild beasts, the fiercest and most conniving of all beasts on Earth, and they are always ready to strike at our weakest point in our weakest moment. We are like an animal trainer constantly in a cage with Satan and the demons. They are ready to pounce on us the second we let our guard down and give them the upper hand. We can only keep dominion over Satan through the use of the whip and that whip is our faith in and loyalty to Jesus Christ!

Because of our sinful nature, we should start each day out by asking God to give us the strength to control Satan that day and end each day with thanking Him for a victorious day.

God Bless!

When ever I read Job I always think of the Book "The Sacred Romance". Has anyone else read it? It really jumps into this relationship between us Satan and God. If you haven't get it. It really opened my eyes....!

Kate, re: "The Sacred Romance" - I have read all of John & Staci's books, except "Waking the Dead." For something even more awakening about satan & his cohorts & they are after us to steal, kill & destroy us - read "Lord Foulgrin's Letters" by Randy Alcorn - very eye opening.



1) Was Job real person or not?

Mentioned in Gen46:13, and given the time frame would have jived with the Orthodox Jewish belief that Job was an advisor to pharoah at the time of Moses' birth.

However it would seem that the Orthodox Jeiwsh belief that Job suffered because of "silence" in advising on killing Jewish babies is incorrect based on the Book of Job.

Apparently Job was not an uncommon name, so the above may not apply. However, Ezek14:14,20 indicates Job was a real person - as to some degree James5:11.
2) Lived in Uz. Uz is great-grandson of Noah. Also fits the general timeframe of Orthodox Jew's as to when Job lived.

3)Job was blameless(perfect KJV) and upright. Well, we know no one is "perfect" - but Hebrew can mean "complete" with the idea that Job was balanced in his Life and revered God.

However Job can be perceived by God to be blameless and righteous. How? Just like Abraham "righteousness through faith". God affirms His view of Job in Job 2:3. Why does God see Job like Abraham? Because Job reveres God, eschews evil, and believes in "the redeemer"

I know that my Redeemer lives,
and that in the end he will stand upon the earth.
And after my skin has been destroyed,
yet in my flesh I will see God;

Job believed in the promise made to Adam that a ga'al (concept of kinsman-redeemer as in Book of Ruth)would come, in the ressurection of the body, and Job will see God in the end. Job had a faith and trust in God's Word - so like Abraham, Job was declared righteous.
4) Critical historians point to the fact that no mention of Mosaic Law, prescribed sacrifices, Levitical priest system also indicates a time before Mt. Sinai.
5) If Job is real, God is real, angels are real - one would be hard-pressed to propose that Satan would be introduced into the story as a "fictional character". Peter believes Satan is real, and even references Job as to Satan's physical presence.

1Peter5:8 "Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour." NIV
6) Satan proposes that the faithful (in this case - Job) are faithful for self-interest sake. He has blessings - of course he reveres you.

This premise is sometimes also espoused by non-believers, and this book is a lesson to them - that they are wrong about the motivations of the "faithful".

God allows Satan to mess with Job's material possessions, but God restricts Satan's (puts boundries on what satan can do.)

Satan is powerful fallen angel, but he and his minions can do nothing more than God allows. Some Christians want to ascribe WAY too much power to Satan. Satan is not God's opposite, he is God's creation. He has power on the earth, but not complete power. Satan and his minions can test and tempt us, but it is not going to be anything more than we can bare, as God will prepare "the" way out, so that we can bear it. (1Cor10:13).

Satan does not challenge God's authority in this - although he does push it to the limits. Then he comes back in an attempt to change the rules.
7) Satan comes back and wants more authority to test Job.

[NOTE: Satan has access to heaven. He is an outsider,but he has access. Not sure when "battle" that Pat refers to will happen or if it happened already, but at this point Satan has access.]

Once again, God grants Satan authority to test Job's physical well-being, but with limits. Once again a lesson, a person who is "faithful" does not depend on health for his "faith".

Job does not curse God. He does not even call his wife foolish (immoral), but that she speaks like a "foolish woman".
8) Three friends arrive. More about them later as this is getting long.

But notice they ARE friends. They travel a distance to be there, they lament traditionally, and they sit with Job for seven days and nights - not to advise him, but just to be with him as comfort.

Do we as Christians go to such lengths for our friends? When they are joyous, or when they are sad? No matter their philosophy or theology - this is a great example of friendship.
9) Job's Lament

-Why even born?
-Why not die at birth?
-Why not die now?

Job does not curse God, or challenge God on these things -----

But he is seemingly questioning God's sovereignty and/or wisdom.

Perhaps the lesson is: It is ok to question God's decisions and actions. Perhaps through questioning and prayer we will gain greater insight into God and our faith.

Job 1-3:26

Job is the book I go to and think on when I need a reminder on how not to guess what God’s ways are like. Unfortunately, Job didn’t have the written Word of God to ascertain the ways of God, but thanks to Job’s experiences written down for us, we have the privilege to at least know what God is not like because we can look at the dialogue with his three “friends.”

One of the things I love in this book is the passage, in King James parlance, “Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. (Job 1:6 KJV).

Evil showing up when good appears is the norm. Paul stated, I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. (Romans 7:21 KJV) Therefore, I need to stop being surprised when in the midst of something good happening, evil shows up.

There is also a verse in today’s reading that I believe is used wrongly by a lot of people. It is quoted as fact as if God spoke it, He did not,

Then Job arose, and rent his mantle, and shaved his head, and fell down upon the ground, and worshiped, And said, Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither: the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD. (Job 1:20-21 KJV)

The Lord allowed Satan to strike Job, but the Lord didn’t take anything away from him. Satan can only do what God allows him to do. I Also pray that I am never a friend or possibly a wife to someone using this as a rebuke, Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity? curse God, and die. (Job 2:9 KJV)

These verses also show me that one can be godly and righteous, yet become depressed and possibly suicidal, yet not take one’s life.

I Corinthians 14:1-27

Whether one believes that speaking in tongues or even if the “gifts” are still in operation today, is really moot and deviates from the intent and purpose of this letter to the Church, correction. If the purpose of a thing is not understood, abuse is inevitable, as stated by Myles Monroe then Paul wrote this letter to correct abuse in the church and to underscore that what ever they had been given was not theirs to self-consume. The gifts are their for building up of the Body of Christ. No one gift is more valuable then the next because each has its purpose. Just like a cancerous grown on a seemingly insignificant part of the body can take out the whole body, so too something that “men” designate as inferior or insignificant is ignored, it can take out an entire church. The Church at Corinth was putting greater value on speaking in tongues, that was wrong, and whatever they were doing, they were not doing it in LOVE. This was an immature church, immature by choice using some very powerful gifts, given to them by God, wrongly. Have you given your three-year old your power tools today?

Psalm 37:12-29

Mike we are not godly because of anything we do or don’t do. God says, “But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousness are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.”(Isaiah 64:6 KJV)

We can never be good enough by keeping the Law and if anyone breaks on of the laws (all 600 plus, not just the 10), they have broken them all (Deut 27:26; Gal 3:10). If God had said to Abraham, “I am a Rain Cloud walk before me and be wet because I am wet,” would we have to go jump into a lake to get wet? No, we would become wet because of who God is.

And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect. (Genesis 17:1 KJV)

Our righteousness, or steps being ordered by God comes from our relationship with Him, it comes from us being attached to the Vine as His branches.

Proverbs 21:25-26

Is being “needy” a nice way of saying someone is greedy? If it is then no matter how we “nice-it-up” needy is still greedy. And if “needy” and “greedy” are indeed one and the same, someone please correct me if I’m wrong—I know there are Psychologist that come to this site, the root cause is laziness as per the wisdom of Solomon. Yikes.

Job 1 (NKJV)
Then the LORD said to Satan, “Have you considered My servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, one who fears God and shuns evil?”
So Satan answered the LORD and said, “Does Job fear God for nothing?

Certainly following and loving God does not guarantee there will be no problems, nor did God ever guarantee this.

In fact, Charles Colson (founder of Prison Fellowship International) says in his testimony that it was only after he became a Christian that he started to have serious problems!

God’s prosperity, goodness, and wisdom is SPIRITUAL WISDOM AND STRENGTH in the middle of life’s problems. I heard an excellent quote on “Family Life Today” which is ministry to encourage and strengthen the family, a ministry of Campus Crusade for Christ. The quote was this: “Spiritual growth occurs when you exercise your soul not on the basis of feelings, but on the basis of God’s Word during the problems and concerns of this life.” EXCELLENT!

Our faith can grow, and it needs to so we can be strong in the Lord in life’s problems—and so we can be the witness to others that Jesus is real and that He is Lord!

Job 1 (NKJV)
And he said: “ Naked I came from my mother’s womb, and naked shall I return there.
The LORD gave, and the LORD has taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD.”

Job 2 (NKJV)
Then the LORD said to Satan, “Have you considered My servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, one who fears God and shuns evil? And still he holds fast to his integrity, although you incited Me against him, to destroy him without cause.”

I admire Job’s love and faith in God. And note that God is not the cause of tragedy and misery in Job’s family and life.

God never wants to cause misery. He is not, as some people characterize him, “just holding a big stick waiting for you to mess up so He can clobber you.”

No, God has always been THE GOD OF MERCY—steadfast, unfailing covenant love.

God Himself later rebukes Job’s “friends” by reminding them of this very fact. For they had been accusing Job that he must have sinned against God, and that God had caused Job’s misery.

Job 42 (NKJV)
Now therefore, take for yourselves seven bulls and seven rams, go to My servant Job, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and My servant Job shall pray for you. For I will accept him, lest I deal with you according to your folly; because you have not spoken of Me what is right, as My servant Job has.”

It is true, of course, that if we sin and persist in sin with an unrepentant heart, that we will open the door for the enemy to come in and cause pain and harm in a way that God never intended.

When we honestly have not sinned and when God allows difficult things to happen to me that I don’t understand, may we be like Job: “Blessed be the name of the Lord.”

I Corinthians 14 (NKJV)
For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God
He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church.

For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful.
What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding.

The born again spirit of each believer is praying, and that can manifest itself as tongues. Of course, the language with which we normally speak can also be an instrument of our born again spirit as we speak out of deep prayer and worship.

When our born again spirit does speak in tongues and is praising and worshipping God, we can ask God to allow us to understand what the Holy Spirit is praying so we can pray with more clarity and with more of God’s wisdom. “I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding.”

The point for those who do speak with tongues is not just to edify one’s self in the Lord (though we do need to be spiritually strong with every tool that God gives us!).

The point of tongues is to gain God’s wisdom for our normal speaking and living so we can follow God more clearly, and so we can minister to others in the wisdom of the Spirit. Then, we can minister to others with more wisdom and compassion of the Lord Jesus.

How do we gain this understanding in our daily and normal speaking and living? Through interpretation. Interpretation does not have to come from someone else with God’s “translation” of the message in tongues given to them by God. God can give the interpretation or “translation” to those who speak in tongues ask the Holy Spirit to teach them.

Psalm 37 (NKJV)
The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD, and He delights in his way.
Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down; for the LORD upholds him with His hand.

I like this excellent quote from “The Treasury of David” by Charles Spurgeon. Though this quote is not a comment on this particular verse, it fits very well!


"God does not violate our will, but leaves much to our choice; NEVERTHELESS, HE INSTRUCTS OUR WILLS, AND SO WE CHOOSE THAT WHICH IS WELL PLEASING IN HIS SIGHT."

"The will should be subject to law; there is a way which we should choose, but so ignorant are we that we need to be taught, and so wilful that none but God himself can teach us effectually.”



Tongues - yes, I speak in tongues daily. I understnad that to be my spiritual language which can express what my spirit wants to pray but my flesh cannot explain. It is my method of connecting my spirit to the Holy Spirit. I have seen many people speaking in tongues, and sometimes wondered about the validity of some. After seeing Deaf people who could make no sounds other than grunts and squeaks speaking fluently (in another language) I have no doubts.
Still, I think our focus should be on our relationship with God, with tongues being something that enhances that relationship.

I am so grateful the Holy Spirit understands ALL languages. Whether in tongues or our native language God hears our prayers through Jesus Christ. Thank God!!

Job has always been one of my favorites. He went through so much..he didnt know at the time why, but he still praised God. this book shows the enemy's schemes, he goes back n forth across the earth seeling whom he may devour. But he could not touch God without His permission bcos of the hedge of protection around him. what a comfort to us, God's children!
some verses that stood out:

Job 1:21 "The LORD gave, and the LORD has taken away; Blessed be the name of the LORD.”

Job 2:10 "Shall we indeed accept good from God, and shall we not accept adversity?”

Job 3 has always touched me..I've been there, detesting life, detesting ever being born!
Job 3:11 “Why did I not die at birth? Why did I not perish when I came from the womb?"
How many, many times I have said the same thing!!

v. 20-23 “Why is light given to him who is in misery, And life to the bitter of soul, Who long for death, but it does not come...And are glad when they can find the grave?"
I have been there soooooo many times!!!

wow! i cant imagine not believing there is satan, hell, and evil???

I do not speak in tongues nor does that go on in my church service, though we believe in the gift. Personally, i would feel uncomfortable in a church like that, cause i'm not used to it. my best friend's church utilizes the gift of tongues tho. I do not desire the gift for myself.

I loved Psalms:
v. 24 "Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down; For the LORD upholds him with His hand."
v. 25 has always been one of my favorite verses...it goes through my mind wen i fret at times:
"I have been young, and now am old; Yet I have not seen the righteous forsaken." ....I love that!

v. 28 "For the LORD.....does not forsake His saints; They are preserved forever." Great promise!

I grew up in a tongue-speaking church and never wanted to have any part of it. I was saved at the age of 16 and came to a place when I was 29 that I needed what God wanted me to have. I realized that I did not have the wisdom to know what to ask for. I pray "Lord I need something, even if it is speaking in tongues." I began to pray that way and felt the burden released. I agree with Paul that It builds you up in your own faith. When my husband and I pray together this way, it is amazing how we come together on things when a moment before we can't see our way clearly through a decision or circumstance. I think that many people live for the Lord without this gift, but why would you want to?


Yes I speak in tongues and would like to share my experiences with you for the glory of God.

I have to admit that I did not speak in tongues, and did not understand the value of speaking in tongues until about a year after I had been saved and a sister in Christ encouraged me to seek out the spiritual gift of speaking in tongues. I'm glad I heeded her advice as I don't know what I would do today if I did not speak in tongues.

I learned from John Bridge, a missionary to India, that when we speak in tongues we can receive revelation from God, as we connect our spirits, to His spirit. For lack of a better example, just as each and everyone of us connects with the Internet so we can connect with God by practicing speaking in tongues.

Let me share a few examples with you from my own life. Many times, if I can't remember the name of a person or the name of a book. I'll quickly go away and speak in tongues, and God will deposit the answer into my mind. I've done this on a number of occasions, as fellow believers would ask me to recall a book I read in which I was relating a story and I was unable to remember. However, I would go and speak in tongues, and the Lord would give me the answer.

On another such occasion, I was ministering to Christian sister and I did not know what to pray. So I prayed in tongues, three words were dropped into my spirit, father, incest and rape. I started to pray for the sister in these areas that God would heal her from that traumatic experience and she began to release tears of freedom and healing as I prayed for her. It was an amazing experience.

On another occasion, our church was spending an amazing time in prayer and worship and a brother in the Lord started to speak in tongues being led by the Holy Spirit, the Lord gave me the interpretation of Matthew chapter 11:28-30:

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

I then sensed in my spirit that the scripture was for someone in particular in the congregation, and it was then that the Lord revealed to me that there was a woman in the congregation who had been raped by her uncle. And I shared that if she would come forth for prayer, God would set her free. I did not allow the congregation to know that I knew who the woman was but simply allowed her to come on her own. As she came up, myself and the elders of the church laid hands on her and God did a marvelous work of healing in her life. It truly was amazing.

These have been some of my experiences with the gift of tongues. I've learned from a study of the Scriptures, as well as reading the books of those who have gone before me.

Thanks for writing the one year Bible Blog. Know that I am blessed by your blog and by what you share.

May God bless you richly,


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